Actualized.org was SO discordant

[Phil]

On a housekeeping note…

There are no separate selves, and therein there is delusion yet no one who is delusional. So guidelines wise, calling anyone delusional is name calling and prohibited. 

[Mandy]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

@Mandy see, even if you connect the entire inner energy of entire human race, he won't get it 😂😂😂

He already does get it. You have to feel that. HE has to feel that. There is no you/he. You see? 😂 The "work" isn't work, it's vibrational. 

 

You want to write, yes? You want to speak it? Source says YES, but get in the flow, don't paddle against it. 

[Phil]

3 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said:

If you feel alright about it, fine, do it.  It's an unregulated industry you are operating in so you can get away with it.  Good for you.

When it is said “it”, as in sessions… again, you are speaking about something which you haven’t actually experienced. 

You’re talking about your idea - and not a session.

 

Take some time to read the reviews that were linked. No one is “getting away” with anything lol.

”It”, the sessions… could not possibly be more opposite to - your idea of - the sessions. 

[Indisguise]

Is it just me or does it kinda feel passive agressive when people talk about some spiritual topic / nondualism or whatever, and then someone comes along and goes "there is no XXX"  (Leonism or whatever)".

Like... yeah, true. So what?😂 seems like an attempt to dismiss the whole argument by "using nondualism".

I'd say you could very well make out a  type of philosophy that is observable on Actualized. Why not call that Leonism? 

 

Damn, it really does make a huge difference to be here after a long break. For the better though, definitely. 

[Jonas Long]

Just now, Phil said:

When it is said “it”, as in sessions… again, you are speaking about something which you haven’t actually experienced. 

You’re talking about your idea - and not a session.

See, the way you say things, I can't POSSIBLY imagine a session with you being worth that.

But like I said, it's an unregulated industry, you can get it away with it, you won't be held accountable. 

Voya con dios.

[Phil]

1 minute ago, Lester Retsel said:

See, the way you say things, I can't POSSIBLY imagine a session with you being worth that.

But like I said, it's an unregulated industry, you can get it away with it, you won't be held accountable. 

Voya con dios.

You haven’t actually experienced what you’re talking about. 

[Blessed2]

4 minutes ago, Mandy said:

fall into place

 

 

This is one of those songs that just resonates in some magical way right into the core of things. I love it. It's the same fragrance I've been longing since I lost that childhood magic I guess. Each time I listen to it I feel it touch my core.

 

I hear stories and scenery and a life of magic and beauty there. It's what I want. What I'm about. It's as if my deepest love and beauty and joy put into melody. It's me! ❤️ Just wanted to share it with yall.

 

Still have no idea what the lyrics are about though.

[Orb]

@Lester Retsel

 

1 minute ago, Lester Retsel said:

Voya con dios.

 

It's vaya con dios. How dare you speak Spanish when you aren't Hispanic, it's cringe asf. Cultural appropriation smh.

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Mandy said:

❤️ Know that it is enough to be that. Then let the words flow from that. No one is closed-minded. Don't ever stoop to anyone's level, there just are no such levels. 

Of course. I love you @Mandy. But, unfortunately these days people needs a zen stick. That stick will help them believe me. 

2 minutes ago, Mandy said:

He already does get it. You have to feel that. HE has to feel that. There is no you/he. You see? 😂 The "work" isn't work, it's vibrational. 

 

You want to write, yes? You want to speak it? Source says YES, but get in the flow, don't paddle against it. 

Of course. But is from our perspective, but they are suffering. Actually, for my ego if I do things that say, which is above, it will be more easier for me but I really do want to help people. Because, @Phil saved me.

[Phil]

1 minute ago, Blessed2 said:

This is one of those songs that just resonates in some magical way right into the core of things. I love it. It's the same fragrance I've been longing since I lost that childhood magic I guess. Each time I listen to it I feel it touch my core.

 

I hear stories and scenery and a life of magic and beauty there. It's what I want. What I'm about. It's as if my deepest love and beauty and joy put into melody. It's me! ❤️ Just wanted to share it with yall.

 

Still have no idea what the lyrics are about though.

Exactly. 🥰

[Jonas Long]

Just now, Phil said:

You haven’t actually experienced what you’re talking about. 

I've read your posts, observed the way you talk.  Unless you are saving the REALLY good stuff for your sessions, there's no way.

But it doesn't matter what I think does it.

You can get away with it, legally.

[Jonas Long]

4 minutes ago, Orb said:

@Lester Retsel

 

 

It's vaya con dios. How dare you speak Spanish when you aren't Hispanic, it's cringe asf. Cultural appropriation smh.

Calm your tits boy.  It's a typo.  Some of my best friends are Hispanic.  They wouldn't mind.

[Phil]

4 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said:

I've read your posts, observed the way you talk.  Unless you are saving the REALLY good stuff for your sessions, there's no way.

But it doesn't matter what I think does it.

You can get away with it, legally.

“It” is sessions, which you’ve not actually experienced. No one is “getting away with anything”. That belief is secondary to missing that you’re talking about your idea of what a session is like, and not what a session is like. 

[Serenity]

8 minutes ago, Indisguise said:

Is it just me or does it kinda feel passive agressive when people talk about some spiritual topic / nondualism or whatever, and then someone comes along and goes "there is no XXX"  (Leonism or whatever)".

Like... yeah, true. So what?😂 seems like an attempt to dismiss the whole argument by "using nondualism".

I'd say you could very well make out a  type of philosophy that is observable on Actualized. Why not call that Leonism? 

 

Damn, it really does make a huge difference to be here after a long break. For the better though, definitely. 

This! It can surely feel invalidating and frustrating. 

 

Leo is a master at perspective jumping btw. His spiritual ego tends to use this mechanism for the sake of feeling superior and maintain himself in a a position of supposed superiority.

 

Things can be seen from many angles. I suppose one should adapt themselves to the situation and see what's currently being needed. The key word here is balance.

 

 

[James123]

14 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said:

I've read your posts, observed the way you talk.  Unless you are saving the REALLY good stuff for your sessions, there's no way.

But it doesn't matter what I think does it.

You can get away with it, legally.

@Phil He helped me to realize what enlightenment is. I cried for 9 hours after realization. What can i say more 😂😂😂😂

[Orb]

@Lester Retsel I was joking. Just showing you how annoying it is when you're using a word from another language and then someone says youre appropriating someone's culture. 

 

Since you criticized that a while back. 

[Devin]

1 hour ago, Robed Mystic said:

There is no Leo, or Leoism.

 

 

[Robed Mystic]

15 minutes ago, Devin said:

 

What does this have to do with me pointing out where he contradicts himself?

Yes, paradox is by design, but still 🙂

 

And no, other teachers refer to the Absolute and the relative. .  Others talk of Infinity and Infinite Consciousness.  And even still, the words used are really immaterial.   It's what they point to that counts.   And what they point to is prior to what is used to do the pointing.  

 

In other words, there are no messengers, there is only Truth shifting forms.

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Robed Mystic

[Robed Mystic]

2 hours ago, James123 said:

Of course!!! If you are suffering for the Truth, that's walking the path (moreover, not spiritual growth, it is killing the person who is spiritually growing 😂😂😂) and if you are suffering for your own desires it is worldly suffering/human stuff 😂😂 yo listen to me, you will thank me later.

If I'm suffering for the Truth, then I'm walking the path....but earlier you said I was suffering, but I'm not walking the path....was this because I wasnt suffering for Truth but for my own desires?  Well..they are actually one in the same....furthermore, why does there need to be a path?  Have you heard the phrase "All roads lead to Rome?"

😀

There is only suffering from selfishness....even suffering for Truth as you call it,  is born out of selfish desire.   But you are corrrect in the sense that when we suffer from our own selfishness, it is in fact killing the ego/person.  That's correct, and that is what I meant by spiritual growth.  It will bring you closer to Spirit until ultimately you will unite with Spirit.

Edited November 22, 2022 by Robed Mystic

[James123]

31 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

If I'm suffering for the Truth, then I'm walking the path....but earlier you said I was suffering, but I'm not walking the path....was this because I wasnt suffering for Truth but for my own desires? 

I was just trying to say that as an ego (you and I) do not ever consider any perspective as Truth or Truth Perspective (like there is no difference). Because, it will mislead you, (which already did me) and cause lots of suffering.  Ego is so fucking sneaky. Believe me. Even it will use the truth for it's own way to get out. 

Edited November 22, 2022 by James123