(Expletive deleted), we're either talking about something like what the thread offered as a subject or not, we can totally not, but why is my counterpoint the sticking point where its gone too far and we cant actually talk about the proposed subject anyway?
What do you mean? Yes its what I meant to type...as in Jeffrey Dahmner-ed. He killed the bottom rung of society because they wouldn't get investigated. Just an example.
Honestly the only point was, me, or whoever, not getting into your truck isn't evidence to support your thesis of my reasons not to, or for doing whatever I'm doing.
Maybe you're afraid to get Dahmered, maybe you just have no reason to think you will be paid or treated fairly, not exploited etc.
I thought that's what I was saying... the wheels aren't even turning on the chariot, they're inbedded in the earth, the planet itself is all that's moving it.
I was speaking to that example because I thought that's what we were talking about...you quoted me talking about that example specifically.
I'm not laying the blame anywhere, I'm saying their guilt is misplaced in the first place, and their "offer" and resulting extrapolation is exactly like you say, the smokescreen, distraction and passing of the blame FOR THEM, and not for the person the "offer" is being made to. I'm not accusing anyone of being responsible in the first place.
Randomly offering someone a days work and them not taking it doesn't amount to a license for you to assume their reasons for that. Same with someone's life conditions in the first place. You have no idea, you don't know the first thing about them, how they got there or what they want. Those assumptions are masking a general feeling of guilt.