A Tim Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 26 minutes ago, Phil said: The minor fall to the major lift… The hook brings you back, on that you can rely. Well done, sir.... well done. You've said nothing so far, and you can keep it up for as long as it takes. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 10 minutes ago, Reborn2 said: I agree it feels good, if only there was a way to ensure they won't buy any bullshit with those 50 bucks, but stuff that's actually good for them. It would then feel much better Here's an argument for the other side of the coin; by being more selfish and making more money for yourself and keeping that money and property for yourself, you have a lot more to give to other people, you also have a lot more money that a potentially fictional, well functioning and ethically/morally consistent goverment could tax, and such fictional goverment would be a lot more capable than you are in dealing with homelesness. Effective resource allocation. Therefore, maybe those 50 bucks would be better spent by such goverment than giving it to Bob who's gonna spend it on bunch of beers and a pack of smokes to cope with his life Who gives a shit what they spend it on. If its a gift that come with conditions it's not a gift. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn2 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Who gives a shit what they spend it on. If its a gift that come with conditions it's not a gift. Yeah, that's one way to look at it I guess Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Let's just borrow a small fraction of the funding we give to weapons and military and invest it in affordable housing and ubi. Done. then we can say living without shelter is a choice. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 25 minutes ago, A Tim said: Well done, sir.... well done. You've said nothing so far, and you can keep it up for as long as it takes. Just ‘doin my job’. 🍻 @Jonas Long There still wouldn’t be ‘choice’ though. Of course, apparently we can say it, it just wouldn't be any truer than there is a unicorn. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 5 minutes ago, Phil said: @Jonas Long There still wouldn’t be ‘choice’ though. No, there'd still be more issues to deal with for sure. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 6 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: No, there'd still be more issues to deal with for sure. If you're working on a painting or a song, are you dealing with issues? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 31 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Who gives a shit what they spend it on. If you want to make a drug addict happy, give them some money to buy drugs. 😁 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Mandy said: If you're working on a painting or a song, are you dealing with issues? I don't know. Symbolically yes, or it feels like it. Ideas of issues. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: If you want to make a drug addict happy, give them some money to buy drugs. 😁 And if you want to make a capitalist happy, give them a job. (Obv there's no drug addicts or capitalists) Edited April 12 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, Jonas Long said: I don't know. Symbolically yes, or it feels like it. Ideas of issues. An exploration then? Does the canvas start out blank? Or with issues to fix? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, Mandy said: An exploration then? Does the canvas start out blank? Or with issues to fix? The first few layers are creating issues to fix, for me. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Obviously homelessness isn't the defining characteristic of anyone any more than race is. I guess the term and the "othering" of it is intrinsic to the problem. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Tim Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 7 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: And if you want to make a capitalist happy, give them a job. If you want to make a homeless person unhappy, try giving them a job. We're having a hard time hiring, so whenever I see someone panhandling while driving in my company truck - I give them water and offer for them to come earn some money. I've never had one person accept it. They usually laugh at the prospect. They aren't interested in earning it. They want it given. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 5 minutes ago, A Tim said: If you want to make a homeless person unhappy, try giving them a job. We're having a hard time hiring, so whenever I see someone panhandling while driving in my company truck - I give them water and offer for them to come earn some money. I've never had one person accept it. They usually laugh at the prospect. They aren't interested in earning it. They want it given. yeah, well, again, mental illness. Or assuming you are luring them into your van to rape and kill them, which is actually a reasonable assumption on their part seeing as how exactly that happens quite regularly. What kind of work are you offering them? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 2 hours ago, Mandy said: Because no one informed Source that gay means anything other than happy, and we all are very gay. I’m not gay right now😞 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, Kevin said: I’m not gay right now😞 At least you're a homo. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 30 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: No, there'd still be more issues to deal with for sure. Like…? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Tim Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: What kind of work are you offering them? Honest, unskilled work doing similar work to landscaping. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, Phil said: Like…? Health care, including mental health, rehab for addicts, support networks of some kind. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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