Jonas Long Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Phil said: @Lester Retsel Keep contemplating. Really scrutiny direct experience with every aspect, every word of the question. I probably won't, but...let's say I will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 "Before there was equilibrium countenance beheld not countenance" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Devin said: I'll watch the Spira video this weekend, I don't see the relation It's pretty simple actually, infinite=not finite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Devin said: I'll watch the Spira video this weekend, I don't see the relation What video? There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 2 hours ago, DMT Elf said: I left because you all stopped talking about dicks. If a dick ejaculates in the forest, does the earth get pregnant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Lester Retsel said: If a dick ejaculates in the forest, does the earth get pregnant? Well, of course...duh!😆 You're a thought. Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'. The 'changeless' can be realized only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Devin said: It can know the conceptualization of finite, I disagree with the phrase. Spira's teachings are corroding real realty😏 A fractal pattern is infinite. Nothing inside a fractal pattern can be finite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 @Devin Seems like, yes, but actually, no. YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 14 hours ago, Devin said: I'll watch the Spira video this weekend, I don't see the relation 8 hours ago, Devin said: It can know the conceptualization of finite, I disagree with the phrase. Spira's teachings are corroding real reality😏 No, “it” can’t. It’s sad that your young mind has been so deeply influenced in this way, that the relation goes unnoticed even on a thread spelling it out to you. YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Phil said: If a tree falls in the woods and no one if there to hear it, does it make a sound? If Phil types a message and I'm not online to read it, does it say anything? (I'm joking brother). 23 hours ago, Phil said: Can infinite know finite? Seeing is believing. Edited November 20, 2022 by Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Links Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Links said: Seeing is believing. Expanding on my slightly pretentious comment. Infinite and finite (also absolute and relative) are just fancy words for awareness, and the structure or texture of awareness. When I read these words, I pay attention and focus on them, so the word becomes the foreground of awareness, and the rest of the room is the background. Then I shift my gaze to my cup of tea on the coffee table and I reach over, pick it up and take a sip. At that moment the cup of tea is the foreground and the computer screen merges into the background. Loses its thing-ness, its finitude, merges with the infinite. In this movement of awareness's structure, it creates and dissolves the boundaries which define all the finite things. Creation and destruction. Like a wave in the ocean is there when you notice it and delineate it with a boundary; otherwise there's just the ocean. Likewise with the TV screen analogy and the pictures "on" the screen. Edited November 20, 2022 by Links Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Links said: If Phil types a message and I'm not online to read it, does it say anything? (I'm joking brother). Seeing is believing. 😂…even if you are online to see it. YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Devin said: Finite means limits and bounds, one selected fractal has both, just as infinite can conceptualy 'know' borders or limits on anything. Saying infinite cannot know finite is finite, there's no absolute limits or bounds to anything, there's no anything though in that same sentiment, but limits and bounds can always be conceptualized I know you like to argue but look, you're saying it yourself, no limits=infinite. Finite=limits. You're arguing against yourself...ad infinitum. No limits does not include limits. By definition. Edited November 20, 2022 by Lester Retsel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) Looks like that ongoing thread on Leo Gura never died since I've been gone it's just changed clothing. Is it right to talk so much shite about someone who isn't here to defend himself? I emailed Leo lodging the same complaint about this being done on his forum too. So, I'm trying to exercise this complaint across the board. This reminds me of a vicious talking behind some else's back like we're back in Jr. High School. Edited November 21, 2022 by Joseph Maynor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Look like that ongoing thread on Leo Gura never died since I've been gone it's just changed clothing. Is it right to talk so much shite about someone who isn't here to defend himself? This is your fault. I'd have never even known about this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 @Joseph Maynor no, he chose to make himself a public figure. And he could very well choose to participate in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 @Joseph Maynor you just let him get his hooks back into you. You were right there with us before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 @Joseph Maynor it's perfectly fine to voice your disagreements/problems with someone without having to be in their presence. As long as theres no threats made or anything crazy then it's perfectly fine. "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) On 9/16/2022 at 5:59 PM, Faith said: "OF COURSE pedophilia is love." Leo Gura 🤦♀️ He's lost it! He could be trying to cope with having that in his memory. He could be trying to heal from it. That might be his way to heal from that -- to reframe/recontextualize reality so he can try to convince himself it never happened so he can drop it. If reality is too hard to stomach, one solution is to get a different reality. Edited November 21, 2022 by Joseph Maynor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 15 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said: Looks like that ongoing thread on Leo Gura never died since I've been gone it's just changed clothing. Is it right to talk so much shite about someone who isn't here to defend himself? I emailed Leo lodging the same complaint about this being done on his forum too. So, I'm trying to exercise this complaint across the board. This reminds me of a vicious talking behind some else's back like we're back in Jr. High School. It's like a storm that comes and goes. Notice how here threads don't get immediately locked when feelings start coming up. There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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