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Yall..LEO GURA WAS MOLESTED!!??


Lester Retsel
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He just dropped it casually on is blog on 9/15, the subject line "pedophilia is love" he was groomed at molested at 14 and claims the guy who did it truly loved him and it was a purely positive thing that led leo to God eventually.  Holly. Shit.  There are so many implications here that I needed to bring it here and encourage anyone to help unpack this.  First off, him dropping it now so suddenly and casually is a classic sign of repression.  Now so much of his sketchy sexism and views that's its totally fine to tale advantage of women under the influence and everything makes so much sense.  Thoughts???

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@Lester Retsel yea that's a tough thing to go through, much compassion for his situation, he's hurting so much but he denies it. 

 

I think he's in denial, just repeating that it's all love in order to spiritually bypass the traumas he's been through. 

 

He's definitely unraveling and it's crazy to see how many hoops his forum members will jump through to convince themselves that Leo's a good spiritual teacher. 

 

Nothing wrong with having shit to resolve, but when you frame yourself as some spiritual teacher when you still have all these things going on, i think that's dishonest and harmful in the long run.

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"Stop being stupid, pedophilia is love" I've noticed every time he refers to people being stupid he is talking to himself, he is still convincing himself that this predator actually loved him.  Therefore his own sexual misconduct is "love".  He was groomed and STILL believes what he was groomed to believe by then pedophile, who was "different from other pedophiles"  this is an INSANE revelation.

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I’m still working on forming an opinion. 

 

Here’s one thought that came to mind: I would be willing to bet that most spiritual teachers have no earthly idea what it’s like to truly suffer. I bet if they knew for a second how fucked up it gets for some people, their “spiritual persona” would be out the window as quick as you can blink. I bet this is the case for 95%+ of spiritual teachers. 
 

I’ll let the reader figure out what my point is… I don’t really feel like elaborating.

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@DMT Elf I think it's the opposite, when we see some 30-40+ year old person whos now a spiritual teacher, we have no idea what they went through during the previous decades. 

 

when we see eckhart tolle now hes an old man, imagine how fucked up he was mentally in his 20s, by fucked up I mean like neurotic and traumas and stuff.

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@Orb That’s true. Eckhart Tolle was on the brink of suicide. So was I before I had my first mystical experience nearly a year ago. (Never told anybody that before)
Let’s talk about the true unfathomable depths of hell though. Like being groomed and molested at 14 and not being able to tell anybody about it. I can’t even imagine... And other people experience way more fucked up shit than that. How many spiritual teachers do you honestly think experientially understand the true depths of suffering? I could go on and bring up stuff we’re mostly disconnected from in first world counties like child labor and sex slavery. War, torture, rape, murder… You get the idea. I’m sure Rupert Spira and Eckhart Tolle have intimate experience with all of it. Or maybe not.

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Pedophilia is NOT love.  It is not love of children.  It is abuse of children, it is a product of abuse that results in more abuse.  Leo says this should absolute destroy any last shred of credibility he had for anyone.  He still defends his abuser.  That means unprocessed trauma.  Everything he teaches is informed by a baseline of unprocessed trauma.  This is what I've been saying forever and this proves it.

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How could it be love? Sex pretty much has nothing to do with love. This is scary, I really admire Leo. Does he mean the pedophile is trying to love themselves? Seeing their victim as themselves? I don't see an angle

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