Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 He just dropped it casually on is blog on 9/15, the subject line "pedophilia is love" he was groomed at molested at 14 and claims the guy who did it truly loved him and it was a purely positive thing that led leo to God eventually. Holly. Shit. There are so many implications here that I needed to bring it here and encourage anyone to help unpack this. First off, him dropping it now so suddenly and casually is a classic sign of repression. Now so much of his sketchy sexism and views that's its totally fine to tale advantage of women under the influence and everything makes so much sense. Thoughts???
James123 Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 @Lester Retsel he is just your imagination. There is no leo, just thought. Don't waste your time with this stuff. 11 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said: Thoughts??? Leo is a thought itself 😂😂😂 "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 @James123 yeah I was kinda worried bringing this here would be fucking useless... was trying to give this forum another shot, but, every time I come here I soon regret it...
James123 Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 @Lester Retsel the thing is you share this post on the title of "Path". I just answered according to title or for your "Path". Don't offense. If it seems like I putted you down, I am sorry about that. "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 @James123 I don't know where the best place to post it would be...I just figure a lot of people here are familiar with leo. I'm not offended just fucking annoyed by immediately being responded to by semantics in the guise of nonduality....
James123 Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said: by semantics in the guise of nonduality.... Just the Truth. If you have an expectation, yes it does annoys. Peace!! "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 @James123 honestly you basically did was I was expecting I just had hoped for better...it's a serious issue ya know
Orb Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 @Lester Retsel yea that's a tough thing to go through, much compassion for his situation, he's hurting so much but he denies it. I think he's in denial, just repeating that it's all love in order to spiritually bypass the traumas he's been through. He's definitely unraveling and it's crazy to see how many hoops his forum members will jump through to convince themselves that Leo's a good spiritual teacher. Nothing wrong with having shit to resolve, but when you frame yourself as some spiritual teacher when you still have all these things going on, i think that's dishonest and harmful in the long run. "Too many steps have been taken returning to the root and the source. Better to have been blind and deaf from the beginning! Dwelling in one's true abode, unconcerned with and without - The river flows tranquilly on and the flowers are red." - 9th Ox Herding Picture
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 @Orb exactly. Exact same thing happened(along with lots of other traumas) to Charles Manson.
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 Internalized trauma could even account for his mysterious health condition... to say nothing of his general pompous overcompensating personality.
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 "Stop being stupid, pedophilia is love" I've noticed every time he refers to people being stupid he is talking to himself, he is still convincing himself that this predator actually loved him. Therefore his own sexual misconduct is "love". He was groomed and STILL believes what he was groomed to believe by then pedophile, who was "different from other pedophiles" this is an INSANE revelation.
Orb Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 @DMT Elf I think it's the opposite, when we see some 30-40+ year old person whos now a spiritual teacher, we have no idea what they went through during the previous decades. when we see eckhart tolle now hes an old man, imagine how fucked up he was mentally in his 20s, by fucked up I mean like neurotic and traumas and stuff. "Too many steps have been taken returning to the root and the source. Better to have been blind and deaf from the beginning! Dwelling in one's true abode, unconcerned with and without - The river flows tranquilly on and the flowers are red." - 9th Ox Herding Picture
Jonas Long Posted September 16, 2022 Author Posted September 16, 2022 Pedophilia is NOT love. It is not love of children. It is abuse of children, it is a product of abuse that results in more abuse. Leo says this should absolute destroy any last shred of credibility he had for anyone. He still defends his abuser. That means unprocessed trauma. Everything he teaches is informed by a baseline of unprocessed trauma. This is what I've been saying forever and this proves it.
Faith Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 "OF COURSE pedophilia is love." Leo Gura 🤦♀️ He's lost it! You're a thought. Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'. The 'changeless' can be realized only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops.
Jonas Long Posted September 17, 2022 Author Posted September 17, 2022 @Faith I officially have no more sympathy for anyone who continues to support him
Adeptus Psychonautica Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 Its worth considering the possibility that the guy who has a well established history of spouting delusional fantasy bullshit to suit his narrative agenda, might also in this instance be spouting delusional fantasy bullshit to suit his narrative agenda. My YouTube channel - Adeptus Psychonautica
Jonas Long Posted September 17, 2022 Author Posted September 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Devin said: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/85013-criminal-pedophile/?page=3 He's not saying the pedophile is loving the victim. He is totally confused, here he is comparing child abuse with casual sex, there couldn't be a more false equivalence than the one he is trying to make here.
Jonas Long Posted September 17, 2022 Author Posted September 17, 2022 @Devin he may have intelligence but his pov is sick,, it is informed by sickness, I can't see it any other way. He spouts outrageously sexist rhetoric on his dating forum constantly, the type of things you regularly hear from bitter guys who have a hard time dating women so come up with all sorts of ways to lay the blame at their feet.
Adeptus Psychonautica Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Devin said: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/85013-criminal-pedophile/?page=3 He's not saying the pedophile is loving the victim. That does seem to be what he is saying in his original blog post though. ”His love (the pedophiles) for me was insane” ”OF COURSE pedophilia is Love” On the topic of him being intelligent, then in terms of data processing then I would agree. In regard to emotional intelligence, or understanding the psychology of the human experience, then not so much. My YouTube channel - Adeptus Psychonautica
Faith Posted September 17, 2022 Posted September 17, 2022 It sounds like he has Stockholm Syndrome. It's not just for ppl that were kidnapped, but also victims of child sexual abuse. "What are the symptoms of Stockholm syndrome? *Positive feelings toward the captors or abusers. *Sympathy for their captors' beliefs and behaviors. *Negative feelings toward police or other authority figures." https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22387-stockholm-syndrome You're a thought. Do you think a thought is going to occupy 'no thought'. The 'changeless' can be realized only when the ever-changing thought-flow stops.
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