My thoughts of Leo and actualize.org. What do you think?

[Phil]

@Robed Mystic

You already are, and it is appreciated. 

[Robed Mystic]

8 minutes ago, Phil said:

This is the ‘you’re not awake unless you love Hitler’ rhetoric. Intentional spiritual confusion, problem and solution marketing. 

There are no separate selves, no awakened person. That’s enlightenment. No one becomes enlightened, there is already no one. 

Well there is God.  Unless you are going to say there is no God.  In which we shall disagree.   And because of Oneness...well...

Edited April 6, 2022 by Robed Mystic

[Phil]

(1) This is the ‘you’re not awake unless you love Hitler’ rhetoric. Intentional spiritual confusion, problem and solution marketing. 

There are no separate selves, no awakened person. That’s enlightenment. No one becomes enlightened, there is already no one.

 

(2)

9 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

Well there is God.  Unless you are going to say there is no God.  In which we shall disagree.   And because of Oneness...well...

I’m not getting the connection. What does (1) have to do with (2)?  Thanks. 

[Robed Mystic]

Just now, Phil said:

 

I’m not getting the connection. What does (1) have to do with (2)?  Thanks. 

Not two.

[Phil]

3 hours ago, Robed Mystic said:

. There are no set rules on being enlightened.  You can be enlightened  and be a total asshole.  Don't think an awakened person has to be a certain way.  Non-duality is a total lack of bias.   Notice that. 

Still not sure how that relates. My comment was to this being rhetoric, there aren’t ‘awakened people’ / that’s enlightenment. Are you saying / implying it isn’t, because God attains enlightenment and is an asshole or something? Not meant mocking, I just really don’t get what you’re saying. I’m not convinced you listed to the song loud enough. 😕

🙏🏻 

[Adeptus Psychonautica]

5 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

Wow mate - where.did all this animosity come from?  From one thread on Actualized?   I'm not even sure what so say here.  

 

Its not animosity Dave, its my honest assessment of you from your behaviour on Actualized and the continuation of that behaviour here. I can appreciate that you might not like hearing this, but that is what you asked for - So don't take the victim mentality.

...now where have I head that before? 😉

 

And to be fair I have seen you say FAR WORSE as part of your bullying over on Actualized, and hey - it was a really fucking long thread 😀

I hope that clears up any confusion around animosity towards you Dave.

[WhiteOwl]

15 hours ago, Robed Mystic said:

Leo is you.  But your not there yet.  You only teach yourself.    Everyone out there is you because reality is One thing.  Any teacher will tell you this.  We stand on the shoulders of giants but those giants are us in disguise.  Do not hate this.  Love this.

@Robed Mystic I was quite sure you might be a troll after reading your discussion with Adeptus and Aware wolf. You would have been a very good one, but i now see that you are not..

I don't want to go into any discussion really, just something to consider. All of the things you write, like the comment i mentioned, is just words! It looks so ridiculous mate, and its obvious for anyone that you don't embody any of these teachings. If you did you would behave so differently. 

 

After reading you were a mod on Actulized forum as well, just made me realize authority is just bullshit. Im done putting people on a pedestal anymore no matter the position, especially on the internet.

[Robed Mystic]

13 minutes ago, Adeptus Psychonautica said:

 

Its not animosity Dave, its my honest assessment of you from your behaviour on Actualized and the continuation of that behaviour here. I can appreciate that you might not like hearing this, but that is what you asked for - So don't take the victim mentality.

...now where have I head that before? 😉

 

And to be fair I have seen you say FAR WORSE as part of your bullying over on Actualized, and hey - it was a really fucking long thread 😀

I hope that clears up any confusion around animosity towards you Dave.

Noted.   By the way, most of  your criticism of Leo personally I totally agree with.  So I think we may have gotten into words over nothing.  And besides,  we both have found God.  You found God on psychedelics. And don't deny that.  You have had experiences of God there.  So as I said in the beginning, the non-dual teachings are sound.  And you don't dispute that right?      

Edited April 6, 2022 by Robed Mystic

[Phil]

https://youtu.be/ACfNSqsi_mE

Couldn’t resist. 

[Orb]

@Phil hahaha

[Robed Mystic]

3 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

@Robed Mystic  Im done putting people on a pedestal anymore no matter the position, especially on the internet.

Then my job is done.

[WhiteOwl]

@Robed Mystic Thank you 😂

[Joseph Maynor]

14 hours ago, Robed Mystic said:

 And don't deny that.  You have had experiences of God there.  So as I said in the beginning, the non-dual teachings are sound.  And you don't dispute that right?      

 
This is controlling conduct.  Kissing up then telling him what to think?  "And don't you deny that!"  Who says this?  Based on what?  This has turned into a self-aggrandizing joke.  I think we want to help, but a person has to want to take in constructive criticism.   We're not helping.

Edited April 7, 2022 by Joseph Maynor

[Robed Mystic]

2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

 
This is controlling conduct.  Kissing up then telling him what to think?  And don't you deny that!  Who says this?  Based on what?  This has turned into a self-aggrandizing joke.  I think we want to help, but a person has to want to take in constructive criticism.  We're not helping.  

Why is an experience of God or that  God exists be a joke?  What are your thoughts on God?  Can you share that with us or will that be in one of your upcoming videos?

Edited April 6, 2022 by Robed Mystic

[Joseph Maynor]

Just now, Robed Mystic said:

Why is an experience of God or that  God exists be a joke?  What are your thoughts on God?  Can you share that with us or will that be in one of your upcoming videos?

No.  You've made this thread all about you and your ideas are not even yours, they're Leo Gura's.  

[Robed Mystic]

Just now, Joseph Maynor said:

No.  You've made this thread all about you and your ideas are not even yours, they're Leo Gura's.  

You make a ton of assumptions.  This is the very trap you sit in.  Truth is prior to anyone.   And you have fell into the Leo Gura trap.  Or whatever you want to call it.    You could have just as easily fell into the Sadguru trap or the Rupert Spira trap.  But it was Leo. 

[Joseph Maynor]

3 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

You make a ton of assumptions.  This is the very trap you sit in.  Truth is prior to anyone.   And you have fell into the Leo Gura trap.  Or whatever you want to call it.    You could have just as easily fell into the Sadguru trap or the Rupert Spira trap.  But it was Leo. 

I've been following you for a long time.  I thought you were Leo Gura's sockpuppet account because you seem to parrot all Leo Gura's philosophical ideas about spiritual enlightenment.  

Edited April 6, 2022 by Joseph Maynor

[Robed Mystic]

1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:

I've been following you for a long time.  I thought you were Leo Gura's sockpuppet account because you seem to parrot all Leo Gura's philosophical ideas about spiritual enlightenment.  

There is no Leo Gura.  There is only Infinity.   

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

There is no Leo Gura.  There is only Infinity.   

You can't gaslight me.  Folks, sometimes we just have to say no to manipulation.  I know we want to be charitable, but that has its limits.  We don't let an elephant run loose in a china shop.  

[Robed Mystic]

4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

You can't gaslight me.  Folks, sometimes we just have to say no to manipulation.  I know we want to be charitable, but that has its limits.  We don't let an elephant run loose in a china shop.  

I'm not gaslighting you dude.   You ARE me.  There is only Infinity.  You will awaken.   When you suffer enough.  Or take a ton of psychedelics.   Another thing I disagree with Leo on.  Just because he awoke on psychedelics does not mean it is a magic pill.  It is not 

Edited April 6, 2022 by Robed Mystic