Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 This whole forum is an offshoot of a weird cult, it happens to be Leo's, not swans, but if it happened to be swans ex culties, I doubt her videos would get shared here. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mandy said: @Jonas Long Is that necessary? We're using language and phrases assuming all kinds of beliefs and meanings they are built on top of as solidly as a block tower built by a three year old. I'd suggest it would be far more satisfying to follow them Home. Is it necessary that I tip toe around my natural way of talking and use your terms just so I can get a point across? It's the same point, however I rephrase it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: If you'll allow me to indulge in totally dualistic blasphemy, JUST for a moment, a person sees a Teal Swan video that is shared here and they think it sounds good so they check her out more. They get really into her...like waaaaaay into her, to the point they join her weird cult and end up a bummer statistic. I can frame this scenario any number of ways, I can frame it in a way like happens here with tons of unnecessary and confusing linguistic runarounds and weird confusing grammar, but that is the danger, that is "something that happens". Question for you, do you think I have the lobster jello mold because I like lobsters? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Mandy said: Question for you, do you think I have the lobster jello mold because I like lobsters? How would I possibly know that? Like lobsters as creatures, like them as food, like them asthetically? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: Is it necessary that I tip toe around my natural way of talking and use your terms just so I can get a point across? It's the same point, however I rephrase it. My intention is not to encourage you to filter what you say but to get curious about why you choose the language that you do, and what that language might mean not from the point of view of a separate self but Source. I find it to be a chill up the spine, rolling on the floor laughing, don't need drugs to be high kinda of good timeless time. I guess I'm asking you to drink the koolaid, but there's no koolaid, and that's the koolaid. It's nothing to me if you don't. 🙂 Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: How would I possibly know that? Like lobsters as creatures, like them as food, like them asthetically? Come on Jonas. We talked about the lobster recently and I told you. Why do I have a lobster jello mold in my kitchen? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mandy said: Come on Jonas. We talked about the lobster recently and I told you. Why do I have a lobster jello mold in my kitchen? Cause it looks like a dick? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, Mandy said: "I" find it to be a chill up the spine, rolling on the floor laughing, don't need drugs to be high kinda of good timeless time. "I" guess "I'm" asking "you" to drink the koolaid, but there's no koolaid, and that's the koolaid. It's nothing to "me" if "you" don't. 🙂 See, you're doing it too, it's nothing to "you" if "i" dont.... does it do us any good to call out examples of speaking as "separate selves" Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 Do you vote, and are you selective about who you vote for, because you think it matters? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) It's been acknowledged here that actualized is a cult. So, cults are a thing. @Phil even tried to bribe someone with money to take a break from the actualized cult. Teal Swan has a cult too, just as bad/uhg"discordant"/unfortunate thought spreading. So, do we want to present her here as a "message", do we also want to share old leo videos strictly for their "message"? Edited September 14, 2023 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 43 minutes ago, Phil said: Yep. Also just thoughts. Thoughts which merely point to well being & Yep. Also just thoughts. Thoughts which merely point to well being & discord, suffering and dis-ease manifesting. Infinite consciousness is absolutely free to believe thoughts which aren’t in accordance with the true nature of itself, even as it’s appearing as the very thoughts. You are indeed the sole creator of your reality. Could you elaborate on this please? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) I guess swap out all my uses of "bad" with "discordant" maybe...fucking semantics-ed to death here I swear to god.... Edited September 14, 2023 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 @Jonas Long why are you being a naughty boy ?why are you causing so much troubles? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 38 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Cause it looks like a dick? It isn't what it appears to be and it challenges people to question their assumptions. Should I refrain from sharing Jesus quotes because several of history's most dangerous and abusive (cult)s were formed in his name, and sharing them might promote them or lead people reading here to discovering Christian Science or sending their children to Bob Jones University so that they cannot explore "the world" as young adults? Why is that not my concern? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mandy said: It isn't what it appears to be and it challenges people to question their assumptions. Should I refrain from sharing Jesus quotes because several of history's most dangerous and abusive (cult)s were formed in his name, and sharing them might promote them or lead people reading here to discovering Christian Science or sending their children to Bob Jones University so that they cannot explore "the world" as young adults? Why is that not my concern? The difference is Jesus wasn't willfully abusing peoples trust in him(I don't think). Plus he's dead. Dead teachers are safe. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: I guess swap out all my uses of "bad" with "discordant" maybe...fucking semantics-ed to death here I swear to god.... Bad/ good is thought content, Discordant/ resonance is how thoughts might feel. Words choice has a deep power to it. Don’t just change your language, that is not the point, the point is to put feeling/ intuition about the thoughts first rather than spinning out of control trying to manage thought content. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mandy said: It isn't what it appears to be and it challenges people to question their assumptions. Should I refrain from sharing Jesus quotes because several of history's most dangerous and abusive (cult)s were formed in his name, and sharing them might promote them or lead people reading here to discovering Christian Science or sending their children to Bob Jones University so that they cannot explore "the world" as young adults? Why is that not my concern? I wouldnt share videos of Bob Jones, I guess. Edited September 14, 2023 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Loop said: Bad/ good is thought content, Discordant/ resonance is how thoughts might feel. Words choice has a deep power to it. Don’t just change your language, that is not the point, the point is to put feeling/ intuition about the thoughts first rather than spinning out of control trying to manage thought content. So..."discordant" thoughts feel "bad"? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 You could share Hitler's nazi propaganda on why you shouldn't smoke cigarettes, why it's good that people exercise regularly and why the enviroment should be protected. But ya know, it's Hitler. I wouldn't share Hitler's views even though those individual ideas or suggestions would make sense. Because of the nature of what that thought system really entails. Just act normal, jeez. Common sense. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Just now, Jonas Long said: So..."discordant" thoughts feel "bad"? No, bad is not a feeling. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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