Self absorbed

[Orb]

3 minutes ago, Ges said:

@Phil @Mandy

 

But what you're doing, how you're treating me is unacceptable. It's the kind of behavior that I cannot allow in my life, not anymore. I've tolerated injustice based on misunderstanding for far too long, and that can't go on. So if you want me here, you're going to have to treat me differently, otherwise no hard feelings, you're still great in my eyes, and I still love you. Moreover, I've enjoyed my brief time here. So it's all a net positive for me.

 

Thank you for your efforts for keeping this site up.

Lol dude it's just a forum chill.

[Ges]

40 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:

 

@Ges Whatchu think?

 

 

There were lots of posts and I forgot to reply to you. Sorry about that.

 

Just now, Orb said:

Lol dude it's just a forum chill.

 

I can't be more chill. I'm just asking for some more reasonable standards for communication.

 

[Jonas Long]

8 minutes ago, Ges said:

@Phil @Mandy

But what you're doing, how you're treating me is unacceptable. It's the kind of behavior that I cannot allow in my life, not anymore. I've tolerated injustice based on misunderstanding for far too long, and that can't go on. So if you want me here, you're going to have to treat me differently, otherwise no hard feelings, you're still great in my eyes, and I still love you. Moreover, I've enjoyed my brief time here. So it's all a net positive for me.

 

What "mistreatment" are you referring to?  

[Ges]

1 hour ago, Blessed2 said:

Non-duality is not oneness or unity.

 

It's not a unity of separate parts, like infinity is not a infinite number of things or possibilities. Non-duality and infinity negates things and parts.

 

That interpretation is a (IME) a quite common misunderstanding of what non-duality is saying. Might be because there's a pre-assumption that there are separate things. And when non-duality is heard with that pre-assumption, the interpretation of it is that it means some kind of invinsible unity of those many separate things. But non-duality is actually the negation of those pre-assumed separate things.

 

How can anything negate things and parts? Just because we can't define clear boundaries between "parts" doesn't mean "parts" don't exist in the first place, nor that they are pre-assumed deceptions. The parts are there whether we recognize them as separate or whole. They cannot be negated. They're just there, and they are both distinct and the same, at the same time.

 

Edited March 7 by Ges

[Ges]

4 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

What "mistreatment" are you referring to?  

 

I've received 3 warnings, one point, and a one-hour restriction, all in the past couple hours, that I think are unjustified.

 

[Jonas Long]

Just now, Ges said:

 

I've received 3 warnings, one point, and a one-hour restriction, all in the past couple hours, that I think are unjustified.

 

Warning points on an online forum for violating the guidelines, is not exactly something that makes you a martyr lol.

[Phil]

20 minutes ago, Ges said:

@Phil @Mandy

 

Look guys, I love you both. 

Love you! 

 

20 minutes ago, Ges said:

I never claimed to be perfect or to be socially correct, so by all means point out where I'm being out of alignment so I can examine and fix. It's an area that I'm working on improving.

Alignment is of thoughts with feeling. 

https://www.actualityofbeing.com/aligning-thought-with-feeling

Being is sheer perfection already. 

Self-improvement is a farce. 

 

20 minutes ago, Ges said:

However, if you don't want me here, I'm not going to force myself on you. Just tell it to me straight, and I'll pack my stuff and be gone. It's not that big of a deal if we don't click together, not everyone clicks with everyone else.

You’re most welcomed here! 

 

20 minutes ago, Ges said:

But what you're doing, how you're treating me is unacceptable. It's the kind of behavior that I cannot allow in my life, not anymore. I've tolerated injustice based on misunderstanding for far too long, and that can't go on. So if you want me here, you're going to have to treat me differently, otherwise no hard feelings, you're still great in my eyes, and I still love you. Moreover, I've enjoyed my brief time here. So it's all a net positive for me.

 

Thank you for your efforts for keeping this site up.

Hijacking / derailing threads is in the guidelines. You’re free to isolate, exclude, etc, but that’s not what’s being suggested. 

[Jonas Long]

6 minutes ago, Ges said:

 

How can anything negate things and parts? Just because we can't define clear boundaries between "parts" doesn't mean "parts" don't exist in the first place, nor that they are pre-assumed deceptions. The parts are there whether we recognize them as separate or whole. They cannot be negated. They're just there, and they are both distinct and the same, at the same time.

 

Nonduality is the recognition that the neither the "parts" nor the "whole" can be separated or negated, or exist independently. 

[Ges]

@Jonas Long Have you received any warnings/points/restrictions in the past couple hours? I would say you've violated the guidelines way more than anyone else (lashing out at JP). We're both posting here, and I've not posted outside of this thread. So let's hear it.

[Jonas Long]

3 minutes ago, Ges said:

@Jonas Long Have you received any warnings/points/restrictions in the past couple hours? I would say you've violated the guidelines way more than anyone else (lashing out at JP). We're both posting here, and I've not posted outside of this thread. So let's hear it.

I haven't.  

[Ges]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

You’re most welcomed here! 

 

Honestly, I don't feel it.

 

1 minute ago, Phil said:

Hijacking / derailing threads is in the guidelines. You’re free to isolate, exclude, etc, but that’s not what’s being suggested. 

 

Argument could be made that this post you've just made is a hijacking/derailing of the original thread.

Just speak your mind man. What do you want me to do/say? Maybe I won't agree and leave and that will be the end of it. Let's just keep it 100% clear. Like, seriously, bumping up? What's up with that?

 

[Ges]

Just now, Jonas Long said:

I haven't.  

 

There it is. Thank you.

[Ges]

6 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

Nonduality is the recognition that the neither the "parts" nor the "whole" can be separated or negated, or exist independently. 

 

Exactly!

[Phil]

1 minute ago, Ges said:

 

Honestly, I don't feel it.

Well, that there isn’t an I and an it is exactly what’s being said.

 

1 minute ago, Ges said:

Argument could be made that this post you've just made is a hijacking/derailing of the original thread.

This forum isn’t really about or for arguing. Admittedly, it wouldn’t seem so as of late, and is being cleaned up.

 

1 minute ago, Ges said:

Just speak your mind man.

That’d be another duality. 

 

1 minute ago, Ges said:

What do you want me to do/say?

Tomorrow’s winning lottery numbers. 

 

There are suggested methods if interested. 

There’s also two free zoom calls on the last weekend of every month if interested. You are truly welcomed. (Mic and camera being on is totally optional.) 

 

1 minute ago, Ges said:

Maybe I won't agree and leave and that will be the end of it. Let's just keep it 100% clear. Like, seriously, bumping up? What's up with that?

Stick to the topic of threads. Feel free to make threads for any topics. 

[Ges]

23 minutes ago, Phil said:

This forum isn’t really about or for arguing. Admittedly, it wouldn’t seem so as of late, and is being cleaned up.

 

I was hesitant about using the word "argument" at first, as I anticipated you would divert the meaning of that simple/clear statement into this. But then I decided to go with it anyway, exactly because I knew this.

 

I get it dude. You don't want anyone to challenge you. You must hold the absolute authority here. You're not very different from Leo in this regard.

 

Keep cleaning up, I will no longer stand in the way.

 

Anyone who wants to keep in touch can talk to me on Whatsapp or Telegram here: +—————————-. I hope that's not against the guidelines, but if so, please remove. No biggie.

 

Much love. Take care.

[Blessed2]

42 minutes ago, Ges said:

They're just there, and they are both distinct and the same, at the same time.

 

There are no "they" to be distinct and same at the same time. This is what non-duality points to.

 

Thought implies that white light includes all colours. But the actuality of white isn't a rainbow. There is no "all colours" in white. White is not the sum total of all colours, like non-duality is not the sum total of all things. White (the actuality of white) is white, like non-duality is no thing.

 

When non-duality is confused as oneness/unity, it seems like for example, the so-called illusion isn't separate from truth. That the illusion of separate selvery is also included in truth, and the denial of this is "neo-advaitan" or whatever. Non-duality is mistaken to be duality, and duality is mistaken to be non-duality. This is how the dogma of absolute and relative happens. It seems like non-duality is unity of absolute & relative, and that "neo-advaitans" misses the relative and only thinks from "absolute perspective".

 

[Blessed2]

4 minutes ago, Ges said:

 

I was hesitant about using the word "argument" at first, as I anticipated you would divert the meaning of that simple/clear statement into this. But then I decided to go with it anyway, exactly because I knew this.

 

I get it dude. You don't want anyone to challenge you. You must hold the absolute authority here. You're not very different from Leo in this regard.

 

Keep cleaning up, I will no longer stand in the way.

 

Anyone who wants to keep in touch can talk to me on Whatsapp or Telegram here: +963962414763. I hope that's not against the guidelines, but if so, please remove. No biggie.

 

Much love. Take care.

 

Aww man, I was really hoping for those lottery numbers.

 

[Phil]

8 minutes ago, Ges said:

 

I was hesitant about using the word "argument" at first, as I anticipated you would divert the meaning of that simple/clear statement into this. But then I decided to go with it anyway, exactly because I knew this.

 

I get it dude. You don't want anyone to challenge you. You must hold the absolute authority here. You're not very different from Leo in this regard.

Please stick to the thread topics. You’re free to make new threads as well. 

 

8 minutes ago, Ges said:

 

Keep cleaning up, I will no longer stand in the way.

You aren’t in the way. Again, you’re welcome here. 

 

8 minutes ago, Ges said:

 

Anyone who wants to keep in touch can talk to me on Whatsapp or Telegram here: +—————————-. I hope that's not against the guidelines, but if so, please remove. No biggie.

 

Much love. Take care.

Much love! 

[Mandy]

1 hour ago, Ges said:

@Phil @Mandy

 

Look guys, I love you both. I never claimed to be perfect or to be socially correct, so by all means point out where I'm being out of alignment so I can examine and fix. It's an area that I'm working on improving.

However, if you don't want me here, I'm not going to force myself on you. Just tell it to me straight, and I'll pack my stuff and be gone. It's not that big of a deal if we don't click together, not everyone clicks with everyone else.

 

But what you're doing, how you're treating me is unacceptable. It's the kind of behavior that I cannot allow in my life, not anymore. I've tolerated injustice based on misunderstanding for far too long, and that can't go on. So if you want me here, you're going to have to treat me differently, otherwise no hard feelings, you're still great in my eyes, and I still love you. Moreover, I've enjoyed my brief time here. So it's all a net positive for me.

 

Thank you for your efforts for keeping this site up.

Love you too, and really appreciate the thank you. ❤️

 

It's not the particular language of using the word argument but rather the attitude of it that is against the guidelines and is hindering productive, insightful, fun, clarifying and satisfying conversations. THAT is what we are here for isn't it? 

[Ges]

@Mandy Hi Mandy, it's been a long time. Hope you're doing great.

 

I've received similar complaints in real life as to my attitude, but they weren't very clear or helpful since the person giving the feedback wasn't very articulate. Can you elaborate on this so I can work on it on my part? Like what causes some people to get allergic to it and others not? For example, I've had a very wonderful conversation with @Jonas Long in this very thread. I've learned something from him, and I like to think he learned something from me. We don't know each other, and this is our first serious interaction. It's been a really good conversation in my opinion, even though both of our attitudes can be adjusted, as suggested before for both of us. We got along just fine; no allergies, no complaints.

 

Don't let Phil give me a warning for this post too lol. Let him let me breathe for a second, I'm trying to reach a resolution.