Blessed2 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 How would you define or describe the word / pointing "unconditional" in "unconditional love", for example? What does it not mean? Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 You shifted the burden of thinking on others to answer, but if I put it on you -- what do you think unconditional means? I'm interested in what you think. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) Unconditional means - the rules apply to you but not to me. Benefit applies to me but not to you. It also means - if I get a benefit I will stay quiet as a mouse. But if I noticed that you're getting the same benefit as I, I will scream like a banshee. Basically in human tongue, unconditional means double standards. Everything good for me, and none for you. People who often use the word unconditional do so to moralize others. It's a word used by moral tyrants. It goes like this - If I make an error, I'll ask you for your unconditional sympathy, kindness, love, compassion and forgiveness. Now if you dare to make an error, I will judge you without hesitating a bit. Edited January 6 by Reena Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 hours ago, Blessed2 said: How would you define or describe the word / pointing "unconditional" in "unconditional love", for example? What does it not mean? No compromising with the established historical, intellectual, social, fact people believed it for thousands of years and hundreds of generations. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 An entity or being which isn’t unconditional and could experience or observe and therein define or describe unconditional is conditional / conditioning / a condition which unconditional is appearing as. Meaning as well. Being. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceejay Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 In my trying to answer what is unconditional, I realized that I am struggling to what does "conditional" mean! Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 UN (NOT) NOT dependent upon anything being one way over it being another way, not two. Not being held hostage, held in the future as reward for anything, only presence, only now. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 On 1/6/2024 at 5:59 AM, Blessed2 said: How would you define or describe the word / pointing "unconditional" in "unconditional love", for example? What does it not mean? If someone hits you, and you don't even look back to understand who and why hits you, that's unconditional love. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) The Divine is not x qualifier useful, but useful in itself. But the Divine has a relation to other constructs too -- like the human. That relation I call the Marriage between the human and the Divine. Then there's a Transcendence here too. It's the wobble between integration vs./and transcendence. Edited January 7 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 On 1/6/2024 at 8:36 AM, Joseph Maynor said: I'm interested in what you think. Hmm. I'd say that it is that which does not require sacrifice or loss of any kind. 🤔 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 22 hours ago, Mandy said: Not being held hostage, held in the future as reward for anything, only presence, only now. I like the words "hostage" and "reward" here. What other words comes to mind to describe "conditionality"? Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 5 hours ago, James123 said: If someone hits you, and you don't even look back to understand who and why hits you, that's unconditional love. This would make a great Zen story/poem. 😁 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 No Conditions. Just this. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 11 hours ago, James123 said: If someone hits you, and you don't even look back to understand who and why hits you, that's unconditional love. Woah, that was good 💙 Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Orb said: Woah, that was good 💙 7 hours ago, Blessed2 said: This would make a great Zen story/poem. 😁 It is a quote of Rumi. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConsciousDreamer666 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 That it exists without condition, kind of like empty space or air. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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