Phil Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 @Serenity How is it known that there is a sense of self, and addiction to that, and that is the suffering… as opposed to an experience of arrogance? What are the possible practical consequences of that being a belief? What might happen when such a belief is confronted? Not ‘happen’ as in outcome or result, but what might be experienced? Put another way, what is the readily available solution to the seeming problem of arrogance? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share Posted December 12, 2023 Dot connecting for the ‘win’… 🤍 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 2:15 PM, Mandy said: If the observation or experience is owned, that's alignment, if the concept is owned, not so much. If the observation/experience is disowned, not much, if it's owned, alignment. How does owning the observation look like? I am not sure this is clicking Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 @WhiteOwl Non resistance to it. Non otherness to it. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 3:41 PM, Phil said: @Serenity How is it known that there is a sense of self, and addiction to that, and that is the suffering… as opposed to an experience of arrogance? How could there be an experience of arrogance if not for a sense of self? Quote Mention “Know yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.” - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serenity Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 On 12/12/2023 at 4:32 PM, Phil said: Dot connecting for the ‘win’… 🤍 What about Daoism? Quote Mention “Know yourself as nothing; feel yourself as everything.” - Rupert Spira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 14, 2023 Author Share Posted December 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Serenity said: How could there be an experience of arrogance if not for a sense of self? What exactly is a sense of self? 11 hours ago, Serenity said: What about Daoism? What about Daoism? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Really interesting topic. When i feel good some sense of "Haha i am better now" comes up and takes over. The ego highjacks positive emotions just as easily as negative. Letting go in that phase is humility maybe. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 @WhiteOwl For sure, so subtle! The arrogance of knowing is so allegedly commonplace the discord or suffering is apparently adapted to and goes entirely unnoticed. Kind of amazing really. Like ‘hiding’ an elephant in the room. It’s right there, couldn’t be more obvious, and yet is presumably hidden. Astounding. Perhaps a better analogy is claiming there’s a unicorn in the room, in spite of the evidence there’s no room. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 (edited) This video came in mind this morning. "True humility is the only antidote to shame." Edited January 1 by Blessed2 Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Arrogance seems to be quite present in humans and other apes. Not so much the obvious, external manifestation of it, but a huge, although subtle, pretension and self-certainty. Each of our worldviews are tacitly and unconsciously taken as "true" at some level, and most of us act out from that "arrogance". Whether you think God or the Big Bang created the universe, that love is everything, that the universe is expanding towards greater consciousness, that society is mad, that the masses are stupid, that you have a personal destiny to fulfil, etc. Edited February 15 by MetaSage Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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