Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Like I said, I'm not the one here bitching about women not liking me enough. And I am like that. Some women don't like masculine men, but most of those resent men no matter how feminine you are, unless you're gay. Edited October 2, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Devin said: Some women don't like masculine men, but most of them resent men no matter how feminine you are, unless you're gay. Pure ignorance. I can sense your bitterness though, which may well be acting as a repellent to women in your case. Edited October 2, 2023 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Assuming money isn’t involved, it’s like two cycles meeting. His discordant idea of himself resonates with her discordant idea of herself as both seek relief together from their discordant ideas of themselves… only to find they actually don’t like each other… for the same underlying reason. When the chasing has played itself out, seen to be the activity of thought… this was already always the Disney Love. We’re in the Magic Kingdom already. Resentment is an activation of the underlying. Has nothing to do with experiential reality (other people) per se. It’s playing out now traces back to interpretation, learned, before. The aspect that sticks is the internalization / idea of me. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Notice how it's guys who are married or doing fine with women who are saying this isn't the case. That should tell you something. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Pure ignorance. I can sense your bitterness though, which may well be acting as a repellent to women in your case. I've never repelled women. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 @Jonas Long Totally. So much truth in that. It’s like every guy has two options, ‘sit with it’, and or if you’re already in a relationship… just use the dang pillow! Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Devin said: you'll always be left disappointed no matter how much positivity and optimism you try to sugar coat it with This is aversion. Thought-stories and narratives about disappointment rather than the actuality of acknowledging the emotion disappointment. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Devin said: I've never repelled women. It's more subtle than a running-away-screaming-type of repelling. Just the opposite of attracting. And I'm just gathering this from things you say here. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Positivity & negativity arise as thoughts as the lens-sphere; yet are not actual of the world-sphere (or the lens-sphere). Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: This is aversion. Thought-stories and narratives about disappointment rather than the actuality of acknowledging the emotion disappointment. Isn't all of life and love "thought stories and narratives"?, Isn't this aversion 7 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: This is aversion. Thought-stories and narratives about disappointment rather than the actuality of acknowledging the emotion disappointment. You have an aversion from thought stories and narratives rather than the actuality of acknowledging the emotions. Edited October 2, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: It's more subtle than a running-away-screaming-type of repelling. Just the opposite of attracting. And I'm just gathering this from things you say here. No woman has ever turned me down. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Devin said: No woman has ever turned me down. Keep it up then, I guess. Can't help but wonder where the bitterness is coming from though. Edited October 2, 2023 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 There's no love in the world, you'll forever be separate and lacking everything you've ever wanted. Just accept it, just push through it. You need to grow some balls. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Devin said: Isn't all of life and love "thought stories and narratives"?, Narrative is the seeming context, love is the actual substance (and not even). 21 minutes ago, Devin said: Isn't this aversion from sadness and grief Sadness & grief are technically the aversion. Feels as it does because (source, God, infinite being) you aren’t ’seeing’ it the same way / not indicative of Reality. Other side of the coin; it’s how (some) thoughts (and interpretations) feel. 21 minutes ago, Devin said: You have an aversion from thought stories and narratives rather than the actuality of acknowledging the emotions. ‘You’ (as in idea of a self) are the fundamental aversion. Thoughts stories are the aversion playing out. Aversion is always (mentally) away from emotion & feeling. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: There's no love in the world, you'll forever be separate and lacking everything you've ever wanted. Just accept it, just push through it. You need to grow some balls. There is 'love in the world', but it's not from people, 'youre forever connected and NEVER lacking' thinking a relationship will bring love is YOU thinking you're lacking. You can have healthy great relationships but "Disney Love" is b.s., good news though, you don't need it. Edited October 2, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Keep it up then, I guess. Can't help but wonder where the bitterness is coming from though. I am bitter about the Neo feminist movement, and not just from the male perspective, I think this crap hurts women even worse. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) Edited October 2, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Devin said: I am bitter about the Neo feminist movement, and not just from the male perspective, I think this crap hurts women even worse. Lol oh dear, nobody told me this was happening! What exactly does this neo feminist movement entail? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Phil said: ‘You’ (as in idea of a self) are the fundamental aversion. Thoughts stories are the aversion playing out. Aversion is always (mentally) away from emotion & feeling. 'aversion' is even more the fundamental aversion. Aversion from aversion anyone? Aversion isn't bad, pain isn't bad, grief sadness disappoint, none of it is bad!! Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Just now, Jonas Long said: Lol oh dear, nobody told me this was happening! What exactly does this neo feminist movement entail? "Men shouldn't be masculine!" -Jonas Long et al. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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