Daniel Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Jonas Long said: So far it's only guys who are offended. As you said, this place is a bit of a sausage-fest. And maybe people are reticent about speaking up because the person who said it is the forum's founder and supposedly an authority, so maybe they think they might be missing something. Whereas to me it just looks like shameless, extremely poorly-judged attention-seeking, and the people attempting to condone it are just enabling this sort of behaviour the same as the people who defend Leo when he starts acting like a condescending, abusive egotist. Edited September 20, 2023 by Daniel Moderated language Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Daniel said: As you said, this place is a bit of a sausage-fest. And maybe people are reticent about speaking up because the person who said it is the forum's founder and supposedly an authority, so maybe they think they might be missing something. Whereas to me it just looks like shameless, extremely poorly-judged attention-seeking, and the people attempting to condone it are just enabling this sort of behaviour the same as the people who defend Leo when he starts acting like a condescending, abusive egotist. Yea but read the actual content of the OP instead of just going off of the title of the thread. Also what is the direct consequence of what Phil said in the title besides people getting triggered by it? Edited September 20, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Orb said: instead of just going off of the title of the thread. Followed by these comments hours ago, Phil said: @Orb Best if they don’t even see it comin. 17 hours ago, Phil said: @Orb You gotta really get deep and beat em senseless. 11 minutes ago, Orb said: Also what is the direct consequence of what Phil said in the title besides people getting triggered by it? Normalizing beating women Edited September 20, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devin said: Followed by these comments hours ago, Phil said: @Orb Best if they don’t even see it comin. 17 hours ago, Phil said: @Orb You gotta really get deep and beat em senseless. Those posts were directed at me because I understood what he meant, he's responding to my earlier sarcastic response about feeling relaxed every since I started "beating" women. You guys are ignoring the paragraphs he posted in the initial post and complaining about 3 sentences that are clearly a form of sarcastic/edgy humor. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 Just now, Orb said: You guys are ignoring the paragraphs he posted in the initial post and complaining about 3 sentences that are clearly a form of sarcastic/edgy humor. Yeah, I mean I read the paragraphs, I understand it's sarcasm. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Devin said: Yeah, I mean I read the paragraphs, I understand it's sarcasm. So what's the issue? You think people are gonna read it and be like yea beating women is awesome I'm gonna go punch women in the face now 😈 Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 @Orb No, he just feels like it won’t get attention, will be trivialized, so a women in need of support won’t get it. But I don’t feel this post is really doing that. Quote Mention Ten thousand tears, One Belly Laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Orb said: So what's the issue? You think people are gonna read it and be like yea beating women is awesome I'm gonna go punch women in the face now 😈 No, so consider a young man reading that, someone that doesn't know much about this like you, then they get around others that actually don't think beating women is too bad and he hears them joking about it, he remembers ohh that spiritual guru joked about it too so it's not an issue, he condones or contributes to the joking, him or another young man get's a little drunk and get's a little backlash from a woman so he smacks her across the face...... "gotta keep your woman in check"...... It's social conditioning Edited September 20, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Devin said: No, so consider a young man reading that, someone that doesn't know much about this like you, then they get around others that actually don't think beating women is too bad and he hears them joking about it, he remembers ohh that spiritual guru joked about it too so it's not an issue, he condones or contributes to the joking, him or another young man get's a little drunk and get's a little backlash from a woman so he smacks her across the face...... "gotta keep your woman in check"...... It's social conditioning This is purely a hypothetical. Have you actually seen a woman getting beaten up in your direct experience? If so, you would know there is a clear difference. When you see another human getting assaulted, there's a fight or flight response that kicks in and you call the cops or find a way to help or for some people they freeze. Edited September 20, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Orb said: This is purely a hypothetical. It's common actually 5 minutes ago, Orb said: Have you actually seen a woman getting beaten up in your direct experience? Yeah Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) @Orb How do you think women abusers, gay beaters, black beaters, racists, homophobes, mysoginists acquire their M.O.? Edited September 20, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Devin said: It's common actually I've never experienced that or seen that before in my life. I've never been at a bar with my friend, gotten drunk and been like damn you gotta keep your girl in check, I'm gonna go punch that girl. If someone hears a joke like that and actually hurts a woman they're not responding to a joke, they're a psychopath or sociopath. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Orb said: I've never experienced that or seen that before in my life. I've never been at a bar with my friend, gotten drunk and been like damn you gotta keep your girl in check, I'm gonna go punch that girl. If someone hears a joke like that and actually hurts a woman they're not responding to a joke, they're a psychopath or sociopath. Not from that joke, an accumulation and of progressively more serious rhetoric. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) His joke allows more breathing room for a more literal one, one in a locker room where we won't be to shut it down. For the young ears watching. Yes, ears watching. Do you not believe in social conditioning? "What are you gonna do cry to mommy little boy!?", to bring full circle with the OP. Edited September 20, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orb Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Devin said: His joke allows more breathing room for a more literal one, one in a locker room where we won't be to shut it down. For the young ears watching. Yes, ears watching. This is pointless paranoia over a thread title. No one's gonna make jokes about beating women after reading this, especially when the actual OP is about having fruitful respectful relationships with a woman. This is what makes me think you're just a bit triggered. Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Orb said: This is pointless paranoia over a thread title. No one's gonna make jokes about beating women after reading this, especially when the actual OP is about having fruitful respectful relationships with a woman. This is what makes me think you're just a bit triggered. Whatever, you just don't care, just like Phil doesn't. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Orb said: No one's gonna make jokes about beating women after reading this, Two of you in here already did, three including Phil with his double and triple down. Doesn't matter what crocodile tears you shed for an issue, the proof is in the pudding. 19 hours ago, Orb said: @Phil ever since I start beating women I feel less stressed 🙂 18 hours ago, Blessed2 said: I would also suggest listening a large range of music as an aid to catch up with the women beating "mindset"... I have found for example, trash metal, to be useful in helping to uncover that place in you. Edited September 20, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 As a woman watching this, I've learned to shut up and swallow. All love. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Reena said: As a woman watching this, I've learned to shut up and swallow. All love. Why do you think this forum is a bit of a sausage fest? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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