Blessed2 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Give up! Give up! Quit the healing work, spiritual work, integration work, learning work! Embrace suffering! Embrace weakness, shortcoming, failure! Embrace the attachment, monkey mind, neuroticism, addiction, comfort zone and laziness! Embrace the brokenness, sickness, incompleteness! Embrace depression, insecurity, unworthiness, anger, worry, disappointment, impatience, pessimism and boredom! What comes to mind of these words? Whatchu think? Whatchu feel? Quote Mention Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetaSage Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 when your experience is allowed to be what it is, the possibility for being calm arises. Even if you're going through pain or suffering. Allowing seems to transform your experience. You may transcend and become free of stuff like emotions. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurthur11 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 3/19/2023 at 3:38 PM, Blessed2 said: Give up! Give up! Quit the healing work, spiritual work, integration work, learning work! Embrace suffering! Embrace weakness, shortcoming, failure! Embrace the attachment, monkey mind, neuroticism, addiction, comfort zone and laziness! Embrace the brokenness, sickness, incompleteness! Embrace depression, insecurity, unworthiness, anger, worry, disappointment, impatience, pessimism and boredom! What comes to mind of these words? Whatchu think? Whatchu feel? Dont give up! 🙂 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solereproduction Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/19/2023 at 10:38 AM, Blessed2 said: Give up! Give up! Quit the healing work, spiritual work, integration work, learning work! Embrace suffering! Embrace weakness, shortcoming, failure! Embrace the attachment, monkey mind, neuroticism, addiction, comfort zone and laziness! Embrace the brokenness, sickness, incompleteness! Embrace depression, insecurity, unworthiness, anger, worry, disappointment, impatience, pessimism and boredom! What comes to mind of these words? Whatchu think? Whatchu feel? Don't give in to reasonable doubt temptation to believe tomorrow will be any better than life got to this point in time evolving naturally limited to adapting in the moment here. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Sounds like you're either trying to integrate the Feminine or you're secretly preaching the Feminine or both. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 10 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Sounds like you're either trying to integrate the Feminine or you're secretly preaching the Feminine or both. He's trying to disintegrate the hermaphrodite...obviously Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said: He's trying to disintegrate the hermaphrodite...obviously Why on earth did you pick that example? I have no problem with hermaphrodites just to be clear. Cute but concerning. Thought provoking on my end. Edited March 23 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) There is a time and place for work like this just like there's a time and place to strengthen that sense of I and I alone can do and can be. It just depends where you are on your path. But if you're already strong in the Feminine it doesn't make sense to double down on that -- it makes more sense to break out of your comfort-zone and integrate some Masculine. I know people who are very strong in one but they're weak in integrating the other. There's a huge fear there in some people. Some people don't have that fear. It's almost like some people are restricted to using one side of the brain only and some people can use both sides. That's just an analogy. I've gone through periods of time on my path where I felt exactly like you do. It's a very important area of development work; teachings designed for a very important but still specialized area of development work. But don't let me tell you what to do either. You might be trying to attain the Divine Feminine. You might be so close to that where it's in reach. Edited March 24 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: There is a time and place for work like this just like there's a time and place to strengthen that sense of I and I alone can do and can be. It just depends where you are on your path. But if you're already strong in the Feminine it doesn't make sense to double down on that -- it makes more sense to break out of your comfort-zone and integrate some Masculine. I know people who are very strong in one but they're weak in integrating the other. There's a huge fear there in some people. Some people don't have that fear. It's almost like some people are restricted to using one side of the brain only and some people can use both sides. That's just an analogy. I've gone through periods of time on my path where I felt exactly like you do. It's a very important area of development work teachings designed for a very important but still specialized area of development work. But don't let me tell you what to do either. You might be trying to attain the Divine Feminine. You might be so close to that where it's in reach. I thought you were going to chill out on the masculine/feminine jargon? Its funny you criticize people here for talking about nonduality(when that is the theme of the forum( when you use your own jargon with your own meanings all the time instead of "speaking to people in terms they can understand" Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said: I thought you were going to chill out on the masculine/feminine jargon? Its funny you criticize people here for talking about nonduality(when that is the theme of the forum( when you use your own jargon with your own meanings all the time instead of "speaking to people in terms they can understand" That's like telling someone stop being you. If you aren't going to comment as to the merits of what I said, don't bother trolling me. I'm waiting for someone to tell me there is no you. Hehe. Edited March 23 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 9 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: That's like telling someone stop being you. If you aren't going to comment as to the merits of what I said, don't bother trolling me. Ok fine, nevermind anything I said, and I'm never posting here ever again ever;) Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lester Retsel said: Ok fine, nevermind anything I said, and I'm never posting here ever again ever;) No dude. Come on. We're not that thin-skinned around here. I do realize though that I'm around people who want to believe they don't have a self. That's kind of challenging sometimes for me. Edited March 23 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said: No dude. Come on. We're not that think-skinned around here. I do realize though that I'm around people who want to believe they don't have a self. That's kind of challenging sometimes for Lol. I was quoting you Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: I do realize though that I'm around people who want to believe they don't have a self. That's your misunderstanding of it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiritual dreams Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Looks like someone met their shadow... Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 53 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: it makes more sense to break out of your comfort-zone and integrate some Masculine. What does integrating the masculine mean, practically? What should one do to integrate the masculine? Quote Mention Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 On 3/20/2023 at 12:38 AM, MetaSage said: when your experience is allowed to be what it is, the possibility for being calm arises. Even if you're going through pain or suffering. Allowing seems to transform your experience. Yes it's quite weird. When you allow the suffering to be, it actually transforms into joy. The burden of trying to figure out and fix yourself and your life just falls away. You return to "today" and there is a sense of contentment, ease and completeness. Like a buddha suddenly sat down next to you. Quote Mention Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almond Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/19/2023 at 6:38 PM, Blessed2 said: Give up! What comes to mind of these words? Whatchu think? Whatchu feel? grief. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almond Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Blessed2 said: Yes it's quite weird. When you allow the suffering to be, it actually transforms into joy. The burden of trying to figure out and fix yourself and your life just falls away. You return to "today" and there is a sense of contentment, ease and completeness. Like a buddha suddenly sat down next to you. true, joy. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lester Retsel said: He's trying to disintegrate the hermaphrodite...obviously 😂 that's funny. You got wits. Though you kinda turn every thread into an argument with Joseph. Why? What's the point? Edited March 23 by Blessed2 Quote Mention Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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