Alexander Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 When I check my direct experience this seems true.You can't disprove it because you are just figments of my mind. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Alexander said: When I check my direct experience this seems true.You can't disprove it because you are just figments of my mind. Investigate the "I" Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, almond said: no, you aren't the only conscious being in Universe. Also Universe is conscious all-encompassing, including 'you' let's say when there is no mind, what is there ? There is only my Consciousness. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 20 minutes ago, Alexander said: There is only my Consciousness. 3 hours ago, Orb said: Investigate the "I" Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 @Alexander do you exist? This isn't a trick question. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enlightened Cat Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Quote You can't disprove it because you are just figments of my mind. You can't prove anything with figments either. Edited January 22 by Enlightened Cat Quote Mention Describe a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 20 hours ago, Alexander said: When I check my direct experience this seems true.You can't disprove it because you are just figments of my mind. 20 hours ago, Alexander said: There isn't any testimonials from people here that they have significantly improved their life thanks to @Phil "teachings" Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 20 hours ago, Alexander said: When I check my direct experience this seems true.You can't disprove it because you are just figments of my mind. Good for you 😁 how do you know you are exists and having a mind? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Solipsism is unfortunately true . The more you think about it the more true it will become and the more mindfucked about it you will become. Try to forget about it and not think about it deeply. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 @Someone here Why unfortunately? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 14 minutes ago, Phil said: @Someone here Why unfortunately? Because you realize you are alone . There is nobody home in the entire galaxy and universe but YOU. Imagine looking into your children's eyes and realizing there is no one there . Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 @Someone here How’s this unfortunate though? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 7 minutes ago, Phil said: @Someone here How’s this unfortunate though? Well..loneliness sucks . I remember in my childhood.. I would cry a rever whenever my parents leave the house and leave me all by myself in the house. Don't ask me why being alone sucks ..because I don't know .it just fucking sucks Just like being sick sucks. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Just now, Someone here said: Well..loneliness sucks . I remember in my childhood.. I would cry a rever whenever my parents leave the house and leave me all by myself in the house. Don't ask me why being alone sucks ..because I don't know .it just fucking sucks Just like being sick sucks. What you’re saying doesn’t make sense even logically though. You’re saying you’re all there is, and this is unfortunate. This means you’re saying you are unfortunate. More so you’re saying this is known about yourself, but how can you know anything about yourself - when you already are yourself? Life as it were, synchronistically, as consciousness… there are no mistakes, no errors, no unfortune, and therein no ‘typos’. Rever is a gps guidance system for paths. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, Phil said: You’re saying you’re all there is, and this is unfortunate. This means you’re saying you are unfortunate It's unfortunate for people who came to conclude it freshly (just recently )like OP. for me.. I'm making peace with this fact day after day . I don't feel depressed or sad about it ..but I feel like I'm living my last days on this planet ..because I've seen too much glitches in the matrix. And it's time to wake up..fully and completely. 7 minutes ago, Phil said: More so you’re saying this is known about yourself, but how can you know anything about yourself - when you already are yourself? Why should these two clash ? You repeat stuff like that a lot .I don't see what your point is . 9 minutes ago, Phil said: there are no mistakes, no errors, no unfortune, There are and there aren't. Again i understand your desire to side with one side of the duality . oscillating back and forth like in the yin-yang ☯ symbol is something you don't like. For example You want life to be unconditional love ...but suffering Is ingredient of life and you can never deny it unless you are crazy or something. 13 minutes ago, Phil said: and therein no ‘typos’. Rever is a gps guidance system for paths Sorry for the typo. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 28 minutes ago, Someone here said: It's unfortunate for people who came to conclude it freshly (just recently )like OP. for me.. I'm making peace with this fact day after day . I don't feel depressed or sad about it ..but I feel like I'm living my last days on this planet ..because I've seen too much glitches in the matrix. And it's time to wake up..fully and completely. But you’re saying you’re all there is… and this is unfortunate, and then saying it’s unfortunate - for people. People aren’t saying this, you’re saying this. You’re also saying people conclude they are all there is, which is nonsensical. Never has a conclusion been experienced on behalf of or as another. 28 minutes ago, Someone here said: Why should these two clash ? You repeat stuff like that a lot .I don't see what your point is . You’re saying something is known about yourself, while you are saying you’re all there is. This is cognitive dissonance. The only way anything could be known about you would be by comparison to something or someone else, which you’re claiming there isn’t. You’re also saying there are two (why should these two clash), while saying you’re all there is. Also dissonance, which is felt. 28 minutes ago, Someone here said: There are and there aren't. Again i understand your desire to side with one side of the duality . oscillating back and forth like in the yin-yang ☯ symbol is something you don't like. For example You want life to be unconditional love ...but suffering Is ingredient of life and you can never deny it unless you are crazy or something. You’re saying you are all there is… and you are saying there is someone else with a desire, duality, which doesn’t like some thing, which wants life to be something, which experiences suffering, which can’t deny unless crazy. All of that is felt. None of that is true. Maybe there is some denial about your conclusion & cognitive dissonance feeling discordant, and this discord is conceptualized as unfortunate. It doesn’t seem like you have a clue as to where you’re headed with any of this. Why not just use the guidance system? What if consciousness is awesome and some beliefs are discordant because consciousness is awesome? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 23 hours ago, Alexander said: When I check my direct experience this seems true. How does direct experience equate to truth? Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 9 minutes ago, Phil said: But you’re saying you’re all there is… and this is unfortunate, and then saying it’s unfortunate - for people. People aren’t saying this, you’re saying this. You’re also saying people conclude they are all there is, which is nonsensical. Never has a conclusion been experienced on behalf of or as another Look..this is tricky to explain..because we can go on forever mentally jerking off about this stuff In our goddam heads ... Instead..take Salvia ..or 5meo..experiment with lucid dreaming ..contemplate what "other people " actually are .etc and you will understand. I can't convince you of this logically . Because I'm talking about the relative world . I'm still living inside the dream..so I have to play by the rules of the dream Its like YOU are being stuck inside the matrix and being fed input from outside...to wake you up and out of the matrix I have to enter the matrix and yell at you to wake up . But then I have to use the rules of the matrix when I'm communicating with you. From inside the matrix or inside the dream there is you and me and people and OP and animals and creatures etc...but from the absolute perspective (or outside the matrix ) there is no one there but me . 16 minutes ago, Phil said: You’re saying something is known about yourself, while you are saying you’re all there is. This is cognitive dissonance. The only way anything could be known about you would be by comparison to something or someone else, which you’re claiming there isn’t. You’re also saying there are two (why should these two clash), while saying you’re all there is. Also dissonance, which is felt. In a dream ..how much objects exist ? From inside the dream: plenty . From outside the dream : one (me). 18 minutes ago, Phil said: You’re saying you are all there is… and you are saying there is someone else with a desire, duality, which doesn’t like some thing, which wants life to be something, which experiences suffering, which can’t deny unless crazy. All of that is felt. None of that is true. Read above . Same point . 18 minutes ago, Phil said: Maybe there is some denial about your conclusion & cognitive dissonance feeling discordant, and this discord is conceptualized as unfortunate. It doesn’t seem like you have a clue as to where you’re headed. Why not just use the guidance system? There isn't. You've deluded yourself into thinking that feeling good is the compass of truth . That's false . Truth is indiscriminate. I obviously don't know where I'm headed . Nor you .nor anyone . Are you seriously gonna claim to know "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS "? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) Solipsism is only true if you create it to be so and loop on that. Solipsism is a tool not a truth. Start to put truth into question. Realize what you're reinforcing becomes reality for you. Become aware of the pros and cons of truth mentality. True believer mentality. You're trying to use metaphysics to substitute for Infinity. Metaphysics only goes as far as it systemically can on the path, but not further. A lot of teachers have unfortunately reinforced the true believer mindset and trapped a lot of people on the path as a result. More accurately, causing you to limit yourself on the path. And only a tiny percentage of people will transcend truth, but it's to those that I direct this comment. Edited January 22 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 hours ago, Someone here said: Look..this is tricky to explain..because we can go on forever mentally jerking off about this stuff In our goddam heads ... Instead..take Salvia ..or 5meo..experiment with lucid dreaming ..contemplate what "other people " actually are .etc and you will understand. I can't convince you of this logically . Because I'm talking about the relative world . I'm still living inside the dream..so I have to play by the rules of the dream Its like YOU are being stuck inside the matrix and being fed input from outside...to wake you up and out of the matrix I have to enter the matrix and yell at you to wake up . But then I have to use the rules of the matrix when I'm communicating with you. From inside the matrix or inside the dream there is you and me and people and OP and animals and creatures etc...but from the absolute perspective (or outside the matrix ) there is no one there but me . I appreciate the sentiment, but I’m Good. I don’t believe in an absolute and a relative, that there are people who wake up, that psychedelics wake someone up, etc, let alone in yelling. This is all discordant, and no understanding is needed to feel that it is. 5 hours ago, Someone here said: In a dream ..how much objects exist ? From inside the dream: plenty . From outside the dream : one (me). When you wake up in the morning after a dream it’s pretty clear there were no objects in the dream. Likewise, no ‘inside of’ a dream. The dream analogy is just an analogy. 5 hours ago, Someone here said: There isn't. You've deluded yourself into thinking that feeling good is the compass of truth . That's false . Truth is indiscriminate. I obviously don't know where I'm headed . Nor you .nor anyone . Are you seriously gonna claim to know "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS "? I am myself, so it’s not really possible to delude myself. Feeling-good is the default, because goodness is nondual. Of goodness, thoughts appear. Some feel discordant, some feel aligned. As to where I’m headed, a dreamboard, as to guidance getting there, emotion(s). This is me. I am. There is not me and “knowing”. The important thing by far though is - it’s not your fault. It really, truly, absolutely is not your fault. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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