Devin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Orb said: I'm saying the difference between you sitting down and seeing for yourself the harm your actions are causing vs. people trying to logically convince you of your own behaviors. The moment someone tries to logically convince the other person the other person's like no fuck you! And then the other sides like oh my god why can't you get it!? Pretty much human civillization. Yeah I'm not talking about convincing anyone of anything. I think i see what you're talking about though, like climate activists right? Edited November 9, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) @Devin as for us meat eaters, I think it'd be nice to find ways to kill the animals as fast as possible, like pushing a button and the cow just falls down. I think this was actually a point in Islam, halal meat, I think they would try to kill the lamb as swiftly as possible to prevent a painful death. Edited November 9, 2023 by Orb Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Devin said: Yeah I'm not talking about convincing anyone of anything. I think i see what you're talking about though, like climate activists right? Yea, pretty much turn on fox or CNN and you'll see it everywhere, it's like thoughts are fighting each other lol. When the solution is mindfulness, taking a second to just be present here now. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Orb said: Yea, pretty much turn on fox or CNN and you'll see it everywhere, it's like thoughts are fighting each other lol. When the solution is mindfulness, taking a second to just be present here now. Well, it may appear like 2 sides debating, but that's not all that's going on, just like political yard signs for example, it piques people's interest that are in the grey zone. Like yard signs, they're not to convince the other side anything, they're to get your side off the couch to vote, and maybe get the grey area people considering your side. Edited November 9, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Devin said: Do any of you still drink milk? I got onto almond milk a few years ago, don't even remember why, but holy crap was dairy milk bad for me, I noticed all kinds of good changes, I still eat some cheese, sour creme, and occasional real yogurt, but I rarely drink milk anymore. No milk for many years. Was vegan for a short period, and when i started to eat some dairy again i realized i didn't like milk anymore. I prefer oat in coffee and almond in smoothies. Much better. I eat some cheese sometimes though Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I remember reading or seeing that we would need 4.5 earths for our use of resources to be sustainable. The speed with which the ice is melting right now is something that will change the planet completely. I believe we will see some completely outrageous events (even more than already) in the next 10-15 years since its all so exponential. Floods/droughts also in the western world so we will actually notice. Its already a reality in many places. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) @WhiteOwl the weather here seems psychotic in the last decade compared to how I remember before then. Edited November 9, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 The way I remember winter when I was a kid was snow covered ground most of winter, like almost 2 months of snow, we'd have deep enough snow to make tunnels in the yard, we haven't had that once for 15 years. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) I actually could easily give up meat, except fish, I like fish eggs and dairy besides milk. I've been caring less and less for beef for years, now chicken, and I never liked pork. I just kind of realized this, pretty surprising to me. I love beans and peas more than meat besides fish. Edited November 9, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) I think there's plenty of hope. I think there'll be bad times, but I see A LOT of people that give me hope, always more than I thought, and thinking more deeply than I thought. And the people on the fence are less on the fence than they appear. Edited November 9, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Orb said: Yea no thanks lol ill stay quiet. 🤐 Tried that with my mom and she was like Noooo evil does exist!!!! *hissing sounds I hear ya. My mom used to say stuff like that too. My whole family actually, from grandparents on down, across the board. Till the ‘climate change’. 🤓 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 The problem obviously isn't eating meat as in putting it in your moth and swallowing. It's the scale on which it's done. It's not that we eat meat, it's that we eat so much of it. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/9/2023 at 2:18 AM, WhiteOwl said: No milk for many years. Was vegan for a short period, and when i started to eat some dairy again i realized i didn't like milk anymore. I prefer oat in coffee and almond in smoothies. Much better. I eat some cheese sometimes though Coconut milk in a coffee is the best. Tastes delicious, much better than regular milk. I recommend trying Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michigan-researchers-find-every-river-fish-they-test-contains-forever-chemicals_n_63fa39b7e4b0c253d3453d2a 'Forever chemicals' are contaminating Kentucky fish - Louisville Public Media https://www.lpm.org/news/2022-09-09/forever-chemicals-are-contaminating-kentucky-fish Every fish tested has levels billions, with a b, above the allowable drinking water limit Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 https://phys.org/news/2023-11-carbon-neutrality-extreme-weather-events.html Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 A new study released by the University of La Plata in Argentina found that up to 85 percent of tampons and other cotton sanitary products contain glyphosate. Glyphosate is a herbicide used by Monsanto in their Roundup weedkiller and, according to Scientific American, is the most widely produced herbicide in the world.Nov 5, 2015 https://thewellesleynews.com › arge... Argentinian study finds possible carcinogens in tampons Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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