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Just now, Robed Mystic said:

Uh uh.  You're not getting out of this.  Address my questions and then I will address yours.  Basically- I asked you first.

"it's a cruel world" is a belief, a spin, an interpretation, a position you can come and go from.  it seems to totally contradict your previous lofty statements on "consciousness" being primary to all interpretation.  

My world view is that all interpretation is mutable.  there is no "correct take" on what it's like.  

metaphysics is just a way of understanding things that is not limited to the so-called scientific.  

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Just now, sacredprofane said:

"it's a cruel world" is a belief, a spin, an interpretation, a position you can come and go from.  it seems to totally contradict your previous lofty statements on "consciousness" being primary to all interpretation.  

 

 

 

And why is contradiction a problem?  Perhaps contradiction is a feature of reality?  But yes, Consciousness is primary.  Everything is held within this thing called Consciousness.  It is held within the mind.   But there are many layers to the mind- and the layer at which the cruel world exists is the same layer the human mind sits.  But there is a trick that Consciousness can do.  It does have the ability to skip layers, it's just not very easy to access. 

5 minutes ago, sacredprofane said:

"My world view is that all interpretation is mutable.  there is no "correct take" on what it's like.  

 

Do you have thoughts on the substance of reality?  Like what is it made of?  Remove the abstract now - and bring in something that you love.  Its called science.

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1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said:

And why is contradiction a problem?  Perhaps contradiction is a feature of reality?  But yes, Consciousness is primary.  Everything is held within this thing called Consciousness.  It is held within the mind.   But there are many layers to the mind- and the layer at which the cruel world exists is the same layer the human mind sits.  But there is a trick that Consciousness can do.  It does have the ability to skip layers, it's just not very easy to access. 

Do you have thoughts on the substance of reality?  Like what is it made of?  Remove the abstract now - and bring in something that you love.  Its called science.

reality doesn't contradict itself, only the ego mind's take on reality does that.  its actually the easiest thing ever to "skip layers" and see anything differently, "cruel" is just one arbitrary human take out of many.  

the substance of reality is indeed consciousness.

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7 minutes ago, sacredprofane said:

reality doesn't contradict itself, only the ego mind's take on reality does that.  its actually the easiest thing ever to "skip layers" and see anything differently, "cruel" is just one arbitrary human take out of many.  

the substance of reality is indeed consciousness.

The ego's mind is reality..

Yes - you can skip it by choosing to look the other way .  But since reality is made of Consciousness- (in other words it is made of nothing)  you can actually do more than just look the other way.  You can actually change the way.  The way is something created by Consciousness .  But this isn't possible (ordinarily) at the human level of consciousness- so thus  you can just choose to view things the way you want to.  And that's great.  Just keep in mind that you can also go beyond that. 

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1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said:

The ego's mind is reality..

Yes - you can skip it by choosing to look the other way .  But since reality is made of Consciousness- (in other words it is made of nothing) can you can actually do more than just look the other way.  You can actually change the way.  The way is something created by Consciousness .  But this isn't possible (ordinarily) at the human level of consciousness- so thus can you just choose to view things the way you want to.  And that's great.  Just keep in mind that you can also go beyond that. 

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the ego mind is illusion, illusion is not reality.  consciousness is not nothing, you are constantly confusing nothing with everything it seems.  and i'm not talking about "looking the other way" i'm talking about look another way.  

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Just now, sacredprofane said:

the ego mind is illusion, illusion is not reality.  consciousness is not nothing, you are constantly confusing nothing with everything it seems.  and i'm not talking about "looking the other way" i'm talking about look another way.  

Illusion is all there is to reality. That's what it is.  And consciousness is nothing.   You can zoom in on your hand forever.   You cannot reduce reality down to atoms or quarks.   It is an infinite fractal. 

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5 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:

Illusion is all there is to reality. That's what it is.  And consciousness is nothing.   You can zoom in on your hand forever.   You cannot reduce reality down to atoms or quarks.   It is an infinite fractal. 

this was your 666th post.

maybe because....it's pure devilry 

how can an illusion be cruel, btw?

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1 minute ago, sacredprofane said:

self loathing is illusory... in order for there to be an illusion, there has to be something that isn't illusion.  otherwise, the word is meaningless.  

No there doesn't.   A perfect illusion is because there is nothing outside of the illusion. Ergo reality 

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