ConsciousDreamer666
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On 1/21/2024 at 5:13 PM, Alexander said:
When I check my direct experience this seems true.You can't disprove it because you are just figments of my mind.
TRUE, BUT only if by 'universe' you mean Infinity universe.
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4 hours ago, Orb said:
I was referring to the belief that you will or must experience enlightenment, I was saying basically that will never happen. But I get it, you want to see for yourself and you will. Well, "you" won't but you know what I mean 😊.
I did also mention that all practices like TRE, prayer, meditation, therapy, etc. are helpful still.
I don't at all experience any beliefs or discord about this experience being only "mine" or about others experience. That belief once came up a while ago and just fell away along the path. It doesn't mean my heads glowing and I'm this wise "enlightened" being, I just don't suffer from those beliefs anymore. Things get much simpler, and it is awesome don't get me wrong.
With all due respect I think you are settling down for spiritual solace and not actual clarity. 'Discord 'etc... words you picked up from Phil. Which I still intuit he is legit/enlightened but coming from you makes me intuit also you just picked up a narrative from him. (which again, not debating is 'wrong', you might find relief/solace in it if you are going through a rough path and maybe it is useful, but I would be careful with assuming you 'got it all sort it out').
Is risk to settle down soon. Just saying.(If my intuitions are wrong and you are legit unlimited/liberated. Cool. Just ignore me 🙂 )
3 hours ago, Phil said:By consciousness all that is meant is the consciousness right-now / already conscious.
In accordance with consciousness, is there an all points of view, or one pov?
Who or what is saying “for awareness”?
Is that a comparison of points of view?
Who or what is saying “for the ego”?
Awareness?
Is awareness aware of ego?
Who or what’s ego?
Awareness?
Who or what knows there are men & women?
Awareness?
Who or what would like to know?
Is that who or what not aware?
How does holding a condition or contingency reveal that which is unconditional?
Why not directly inspect for any actual separation right now?
How exactly are experiences supposed to lead to the present?
Who or what feels?
@Phil What I am inspecting is the following, let me know if you find any incongruencies in my thinking:
- I inspect why I am experiencing this POV and not my girlfriends POV
- I afterwards realize Consciousness/Awareness is the one who actually experiences/perceives.
- From that, of course Consciousness is indeed also experiencing my girlfriends POV.
- I concur then that I am the one (the illusory one) who is asking the question 'Why I am not experiencing my girlfriend's POV'? Which is totally normal because as the ego-body-mind I am ConsciousDreamer666, and not my girlfriend´s.
- I then proceed to put myself in my girlfriend's head and imagine she is also asking herself that question. 'Why I am not experiencing ConsciousDreamer666 POV?'
- I concur, Consciousness is indeed experiencing ConsciousDreamer666 POV. Is my girlfriends illusory ego which is NOT experiencing ConsciousDreamer666. And is totally normal because that ego-female body-mind is precisely that.
- I then realize, well, this must be then which every ego ask itself.... 'Why I am not experiencing other person POV'?
- Since the ego ask itself this question, and assumes that the experience is having is Personal, then of course it is created the illusion of individual existence into one´s perception.
Did I just awoken logically? Lmao
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37 minutes ago, Orb said:
In other words, you will never experience enlightenment. If enlightenment is the absence of self how can a self be there to attain/experience it?
Good point. I agree with most of your points, but there is something missing. Awareness should definetely be able to verify unity. In my case there are moments of dissolution of self, but ego comes back. Why? Because I believe the dissolution is not total, is not clear, is not truly clear.
@Orb If there is clarity, if you truly become everything and verify it for yourself (as Awareness, not as the ego self), then you can imagine... there would be absolutely no problem in 'activating' this dissolution at will, and engaging with mind/body when is needed (for menial tasks, work, driving, talking, etc...).
But since there is doubt, there is not real absolute perception, there is not direct recognition, is just a mud of pseudo openings and dissolutions, then still questions comes up. So don´t judge me for asking questions, you guys love to dismiss absolutely every damn question with the answer 'just let go of the thoughts!'
When in my opinion, you should recognise the technique or approach 'let go of the thoughts' is not really being useful. Is not powerful enough. Is not explosive enough for clear awakening. It might be useful to lift people from depression or anxiety episodes to a minimum of well being and mindfulness. But is definetely is not working for most of us for clear and permanent liberation.
I just think Is just doesn´t cover everything that is needed for clear realisation. And I feel you guys are not acknowledging this facts.
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3 hours ago, Phil said:
Is pov a thing / possession?
Good question @Phil
I was wondering... if Consciousness is experiencing all 'POVs' at once, then this POV, is not more real or more important than any other... Yet, for the ego, it is 'the real one'.
Yet For Awareness this pov is not more real or more personal than a 'strangers' POV. But for the ego, it is created an hallucination of 'personality'.
And... that would explain why´s why my ego sometimes ask himself "why I am experiencing as awareness a man and not that woman?" The question for awareness of course doesn´t make sense. ...
3 hours ago, Phil said:If that’s the case, what happens when you stop mentally imagining that there is another pov?
That I feel alone. I know the drill 'don´t belief thoughts, blabla', but truly I would like to know if am united with the rest of reality or not. I just don´t want to enjoy peacefulness of mind (not attaching to thoughts), I want to go further and verify unity is real.
3 hours ago, Orb said:The "truth" that is unveiled after investigating this is so simple yet profound that I suspect you can't believe it's that simple deep down.
Hundreds of Hours of meditation and spiritual practice, dozens of gruelling mind broken psychedelic trips, ...etc and still the ego hasn´t gone...No, cmon, it can not be 'that simple'. Nobody believes that. Even sages took years and years of spiritual practice to get somewhere real.
Is your experience of life of absolute unity with the rest of reality right now? Because that´s what am I aiming towards. If solipsism is not true, then, let´s go, I want to experience true non duality. If you guys say other aren´t a cupboard cut out, then I want to verify they are literally me.
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32 minutes ago, Phil said:
There is only one pov.
If we agree that "my POV" is not my pov because It doesn't have an end, ok there is Only one POV
But perception wise, i dont have access to seeing Tower Effeil now, and some "other povs" (which are not really "other", rather, percepcion limited) that are in france might have access right now .
You see what i mean?
31 minutes ago, Orb said:You keep on questioning the boundary between one's experience/POV with another's.
I'm asking you to investigate if you even have an experience/pov in the first place.
There is definetely an experience of Life. Maybe is not PERSONAL, Ok. But there is an experience. I call that a POV.
15 minutes ago, Phil said:In what way or ways does it seem like there is another pov?
Because mentally i imagine It?
If we say solipsism is not real, the question of what or how are other peoples experience naturally comes Up.
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19 hours ago, Phil said:
The one pov is apparent, the separate self is illusory.
Where is the border or separation "line" between one POV and another?
22 hours ago, Orb said:Is your own "experience" real?
What is experience?
How do you know you are experiencing anything?
Where is the border or separation "line" between one POV and another?
19 hours ago, Mandy said:What is being a person or character if not an experience? You put on a VR headset and have a VR experience, what do you think your actual head and hands and body are? How is seeing your hands different from seeing someone else's? Why the assertion that my experience is actual, but others aren't? Knowing that it is all you is beginning of true compassion and love, suffering is not that.
Where is the border or separation "line" between one POV and another?
19 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:Are other persons' experience real? Yes and no. Notice that this answer is not needed too though. Being gets along just fine without this answer being resolved. Answers are both useful and useless. Notice that when you cock the mind back to try to dissect experience that that's a stance on experience. It's like trying to pick apart a tapestry and find things and relations. It's fine to do this, but we're assuming this gives us a more objective perspective rather than just a different perspective. Awareness is there the whole time, unmoved. It's a belief that we can crack the code of Awareness through contemplation. But even framing it this way is a stance and too conceptual. It's good to realize thinking is a stance and not the only one that we can take toward experience, awareness, consciousness, being whatever you want to code it as. It does set up a more playful attitude because you realize truth is a stance and it's not the only stance you can have toward experience. You start to find other ways to frame experience or take a stance toward experience outside of intellect.
Where is the border or separation "line" between one POV and another?
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I cant seem to Accept the fact that other persons have an experience. See, before It was no issue because i thought there something such as a person and a biological thing perceiving the material world. I thought, sure, this is me, and there are the others biological beings perceiving. Each biological machine is different sure.
But now...is clear to me that there are no biological beings perceiving stuff. There is just consciousness, passing through every being, and in that, creating an experience of individuality.
So basically i can not handle how is It possible that there are ACTUALLY other beings experiencing the same i am experiencing (an "illusory pov").
Infinity Love, Infinity dream. It can not be possible. No way. No fucking way.
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Thanks! Sometimes i doubt but i intuir Phil is legit. Something about him being so congruent in his teachings so much time Tells you something
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On 1/16/2024 at 11:21 PM, Phil said:
That’s this.
What?
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It has happened more than one time that after I finish the meditation I have some seconds of 'God Realization'. I feel very good in this 'state of consciousness' because it feels there aren´t any boundaries, I´m everywhere and there is pure silence.
Afterwards I start to lose my 'state of consciousness' and I become to get frustrated and very sad that I can not get to that state of consciousness.
What is helping is to remind myself that 'God Realization' is just another word/thought/idea. I am remembering that 'state of consciousness' and I am proyecting that experiencing that meant being God.
When in actuality, what matters is experience. If I am not experiencing that, then I am not. Full stop. I am not God or whatever fucking bullshit the mind wants to tell me.
I still fall trap to this mind games from once in a while but I think I am clear that I shouldn´t ever let the mind define what an experience is or especially what It means. I just have to focus in improving my internal experience, but I must be very careful to not fall trap to the mind games of saying that I am in that experience now (in other words: I am God), because the reality is, I am not experiencing that now.
@Phil is probably going to ban me for using so many times the phrase 'state of consciousness' 🤣😆
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On 1/13/2024 at 1:42 AM, James123 said:
LoL. It is literally so little, like nothing 🤣🤣🤣
@James123 🤣🤣You are going to kill me 🤣
On 1/13/2024 at 2:43 AM, Joseph Maynor said:I don't understand how people can spend so much time communicating online about spiritual enlightenment and refuse to call themselves or others spiritually enlightened. It's like you're dangling the carrot in front of your face but can't ever eat it. Why would you do that or let someone else do that to you? If spiritual enlightenment is a real concept, then it must apply in some sense to people. We can argue over degree of application, but that's a separate issue. It's gamesmanship. Of course there are spiritually enlightened people, lots of them. It's like duh! Trying to hide this ball out of fear that it's a nod to the ego I think has drawbacks because now you won't let anyone have it. Is that better? I don't think so. All your actions show you think you're spiritually enlightened, but you virtue signal by not saying that and cutting down anyone else who dares say it. That's BS. There are a relatively small percentage of people that are spiritually enlightened.
I´m not sure what do you mean @Joseph Maynor
On 1/13/2024 at 3:26 AM, Phil said:Time & selves are thoughts.
Absolutely. @Phil
On 1/13/2024 at 3:48 AM, Reena said:Everything is enlightenment. Even your chair in the room is enlightenment.
Yes @Reena 😂
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I was just contemplating about it and I started to laugh my ass off at how ridiculous the ego is.
The ego is constant fight against reality.
I realize all my spiritual practice is a way to try to align myself with reality for some moments, to bring the mind and body to a place of embracing and being in armony with reality, which is how it should be all the time.
But outside of that, is all a constant fight. A constant delusion. Thought after thought, the ego trying to feel real, special. Me, me, me. I, I, I. Constant friction, constant entanglement in mind hallucinations.
Little Being, Little Reality, Little Harmony. How ridiculous! How come we have to meditate every single day to be truly at peace and at ease for some minutes??' And the rest of the time is just mud with thoughts? Is the ego insane? When this guy is going to break?? 😂
I´m having the time of my life watching this imaginary guy thinking is real and special.
If it wasn´t for the fact that a life is wasted on thoughts and mind hallucinations... Is definetely hilarious.
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@Phil I´ve read you several times saying there are not 'levels of consciousness'.
Then how do you explain that thanks to my daily energy practice (learned from a legit Guru) I experience a focus and intensity of awareness where I do not entangle myself with thought for hours.
Depression or 'low mood/high mood' rollercoaster does not exist here. Because there is a constant focus 'outside'. The highs and lows of the thoughts do not touch me at this state of consciousness.
You will say now, there aren´t levels of consciousness, and there aren´t gurus, and there aren't energetic practices. Yet, if I stop doing the practice, in a few days, if not the first very day I won´t do it, thoughts and entanglement will come back, fast.
So basically what I´m saying is, there seems to be a real correlation between states of consciousness and quality of experience. In other words, if there weren´t states of consciousness you wouldn´t recommend meditating. You recommend meditating because something changes in consciousness. It gets activated and aware, therefore the possibility of some freedom opens up. -
9 minutes ago, fopylo said:
I feel good after a good session, good as in peace with the feeling, and that momentum can carry on a bit into the day.
But not all sessions are good...
Sometimes I fall asleep, and that is annoying as hell. I swear that it is probably the worst outcome of a meditation practice.
That is a super common 'problem' when meditating, don't worry.
I advice you to seek other tools in order to make meditation more effortless or 'a consequence of'.
IMO for meditation to be a success, there must be a certain activation or intensity of energies, so when one sits and just don´t move, stillness is the result, and not drowsiness or sleep.
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On 1/7/2024 at 2:27 PM, Phil said:
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Start simply, love thoughts.
Love the thought that there are obstacles, revealing there is no assertion.
Love the thought awareness is finite & immature, revealing unity & inclusion.
Love the thought awareness is beings & levels, revealing oneness.
Love the thought awareness doesn’t know how to love, revealing innocence & truth.
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@Someone here "Be a mother to the world". If you can just interiorise this mantra, you will be able to love. Everywhere you walk or go, wherever you are, humans, animals and even inanimate objects, see them as yours. (After all, they are happening within your experience, they could very much be yours ☺️)
Or just do this emoji 🙏 to everything that appears in experience. Everything that touches you will become sacred and reverenced by You.
The technique or tool is not the problem. Is, you maintaining the consciousness or focus of this 'purpose' or goal. Remind yourself, remind yourself everyday.
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The body and mind surrenders, of course there is not a 'self' that surrenders.
Which is why meditation, yoga, etc...exist. Is a way for the body and mind to get to a place where is not anymore a blockage to reality. The illusory energy or energetic aberration that was being created as separated from reality, is no longer there, and so Dissolution happens.
So in summary, there is no self that surrenders, but rather mind or body do (or stop doing) certain thing, that make the true Being or Existence awake and be 'activated'. In other words the body or mind becomes an aligned conductor in reality, making the illusory feeling of separation stop. And thus our True Being feel finally at ease.
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That it exists without condition, kind of like empty space or air.
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6 hours ago, James123 said:
Non duality is literally completely genuinely NOT KNOWING. FORGETTING EVERYTHING. BEING A UNBORN BABY.
🤞💥Got it my friend @James123 I Will keep letting go of thoughts and ideas and conclusions until nothing is left ...
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56 minutes ago, Ceejay said:
Imagine meditation like going to gym everyday. If you go to the gym everyday, your body will be much stronger and you can lift heavier and heavier weights. But, at not point in time, you are going to become a "Superman" who is able to lift a 10000 Kilogram object.
"Emotional untouchability" sounds very much like "superman talk". All, I am saying is to set realistic goals. Realize that you are a human being and realize the limitations of being one.
Well, I have suspicions that This Being can become enough Conscious and Powerful to generate their own blissful chemistry.
With all due respect, I think you are spreading a victimistic, derrotist mindset. While I am not going to get discouraged by the opinion of a stranger in a forum, it would be good for you to inspect from where this limiting and depressing beliefs come from.
As a side note, I have done over 500 Yogic Kriyas. You do not know the complexity and profundity of the human system. Yoga is an ancient super complex super nuanced science. Lifting weights is paleolthical engineering compared to doing Yoga, which would be more like Rocket Science engineering. It is very nuanced and complex and is where you start to really hack the system and go really profound.
See, this is not about belief. I know the exploration I have done and I know what is worthwile to pursue in this life. Balance, Bliss, Dissolution, Perfection. That´s what is worthwhile. Rest is crap, rest is suffering, rest is rollercoaster of ups and downs. Is not true well being. But if you already are settling into a point so limited then you will not know true Ease and Liberation in this lifetime.
So you have to set the bar, much, much higher than what you are setting it to right now.
Much Love and is my wish and my blessing you realize is not About Being Super human, is about realising being human is Super.
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On 1/5/2024 at 9:51 PM, Ceejay said:
And emotional untouchability... that's a fantasy!
LOL. Then what is the point of doing any spiritual work?? @Ceejay
See, if after all the work you will still be a victim to the emotional compulsions, trauma memories of your mind, and be reactive to external situations, you might as well not meditate ever.
The whole point is to get to an inner place that is so damn powerful and stable that nothing outside will touch you.
Of course I´m not saying that will come easy. It might even take many lifetimes. But is the goal.
On 1/5/2024 at 10:14 PM, Blessed2 said:Comes in mind how that other bald guy once said something like "I've experienced levels of joy that if you'd experience it, you'd probably die." And also "I experienced so deep love I almost jumped out of the window to death." 🤔🤔
Is that really what anyone wants?
Another way to put it would be to not experience fear. Or reduce fear to the maximum.
10 hours ago, James123 said:What kind of drug do you use
oxycodone. But I don´t use it anymore regularly.
1 hour ago, Phil said:Blissfulness is the inherent unconditional nature of being. If it doesn’t seem so, the true nature of being is obscured by being’s appearance / appearing. Essentially thoughts, perception & sensation. The investigation of thought, perception & sensation dispels thought, perception & sensation, leaving pure unfettered being (unconditional, blissfulness).
‘Showed me what’s possible’ is an obscuring. The ‘glimpse’ is reality as is, being as is, as in without separation, without a second self, without spacetime. The thoughts / belief ‘me’ of ‘showed me’ implies separation & a second self in spacetime, which is the very obscuring. Inner & outer, goal, life, states, baseline, producing, living, reality, third eye, yogic mudras and Prana as well.
@Phil Your point is that is all imaginary? Like Yoga is imaginary? In the same way I guess if one pops a psychedelic, and an 'apparent' effect is felt , is also imaginary. But the imagination seems to be very solid.
Like I don´t feel I´m at a point to create inner blissfulness just with pure Consciousness or Will.
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13 hours ago, Phil said:
While nonduality ultimately can not be grasped with the finite mind, this and much more can be. There’s certainly nothing wrong with talking about nonduality. Self-realization is the whole point of this forum and the most worthwhile ‘thing’ to talk about. Questioning & inspecting is not per se conceptualizing.
Would it be accurate to say, that in the meditative fizzling out & absence of thought, the reality of feeling was unobscured & self-evident… and then in hindsight, thoughts arose (about boundaries, bodies, etc)?
@Phil Yes 😊
13 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:Are there boundaries in reality? What is a boundary?
Well, when I was meditating I got to a point where I was breathing so consciously, the air of 'outside' became 'my air', and 'my body' became and 'outside' body.
The feeling of my body existing 'outside' material reality stopped, and I felt like my body was completely One with 'Material Reality'. It was a very deep feeling of unity.
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On 12/27/2023 at 6:30 PM, Phil said:
Congrats on the sobriety btw!
It might be clarifying to consider doubt as emotion.
👌Right. That resonates.
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Just finished a meditation session, for some seconds it felt like they weren´t any boundaries between me and rest of reality.
If I´m nothing and this nothing expands infinitely in all directions and creates forms and colours that means that I´m not separated from a human body that is 3000km from here? Because is all a field of nothingness.
Is that non duality? Probably not because I´m trying to grasp it with the mind/conceptualizing 😅 But I thought in asking 😊 -
On 12/24/2023 at 9:45 PM, Alexander said:
LMAO
😅
On 12/25/2023 at 11:08 AM, James123 said:Try to find yourself in the body.
I´m empty nothing , I already told you 🫠
Are other persons experience real?
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@James123 @Phil Well, I do take all of my posts back. I finally awoken and realize all of my posts were bullshit.
Awakening to reality is dissolving completely in the present moment where no physical boundary between body and reality is experienced. Therefore, sense of self completely being gone. Existing as one wave of infinity, empty of ideas, maps or filosofies. Completely surrendering the mind and staying in Reality, which is this experience.