ThePoint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, Phil said: @ThePoint That’d be something. Sure but it helps with the day to day communication. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @ThePoint And another thing. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @Phil Of course, it goes on forever (and another thing) Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @ThePoint Yeah. It’s definitely nothing. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ThePoint said: You might want to expand your awareness a little bit. There is quite a difference between a projection and what has happened here (quite is an understatement). Reading you guys conversation, the only one who stood out showing "denial, anger, insecurity, offence, and defensiveness, being triggered" was you.. And then you describe it perfectly afterwards outwards. Textbook example. 17 minutes ago, ThePoint said: How has the guidance here on the forum worked for you so far? While I assume Phil and Mandy have the best intentions maybe they're not able to convey what's necessary for yourself? Guidance is really great. What you refer to from my journal is not any "truth" but just conceptualization of emotions coming out. It helped a lot and actually turned things around even though i felt like a child rolling on the floor writing it. It was honest expression of thoughts at time, but don't take it as anything more than that. You could try it yourself 🙂 I am sure you will find it very beneficial Edited January 28 by WhiteOwl Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @ThePoint I used to think that grassfed beef and eggs were superior foods, and that fruit was terrible for me not because I had any real experience with this being the case but because an influencer or two said so and I believed it. I believed in the superiority of how I would be nutritionally if I ate these things. Then eggs started making me immediately very ill after eating them, and the beef and grassfed butter caused chronic pain and I had the intuition that I shouldn't eat them anymore, but it took me months to figure it out because I was so sold on the idea that they were great for me. After cutting out the grassfed beef that I ate daily, I felt a lot better, but still ate the cow milk butter. Cut out butter, added more fruit and fresh foods, feeling better than ever. 👍 Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 20 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Reading you guys conversation, the only one who stood out showing "denial, anger, insecurity, offence, and defensiveness, being triggered" was you.. And then you describe it perfectly afterwards outwards. Textbook example. Completely missed the point. 20 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: Guidance is really great. What you refer to from my journal is not any "truth" but just conceptualization of emotions coming out. It helped a lot and actually turned things around even though i felt like a child rolling on the floor writing it. It was honest expression of thoughts at time, but don't take it as anything more than that. You could try it yourself 🙂 I am sure you will find it very beneficial Never said I don't do that already. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 19 minutes ago, Mandy said: @ThePoint I used to think that grassfed beef and eggs were superior foods, and that fruit was terrible for me not because I had any real experience with this being the case but because an influencer or two said so and I believed it. I believed in the superiority of how I would be nutritionally if I ate these things. Then eggs started making me immediately very ill after eating them, and the beef and grassfed butter caused chronic pain and I had the intuition that I shouldn't eat them anymore, but it took me months to figure it out because I was so sold on the idea that they were great for me. After cutting out the grassfed beef that I ate daily, I felt a lot better, but still ate the cow milk butter. Cut out butter, added more fruit and fresh foods, feeling better than ever. 👍 I don't seem to connect the dots. Would you mind explaining how that refers to anything? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, ThePoint said: I don't seem to connect the dots. Would you mind explaining how that refers to anything? Would you mind explaining how I'm malnourished in your opinion? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 41 minutes ago, ThePoint said: There is quite a difference between a projection and what has happened here (quite is an understatement). What was your point then? 4 minutes ago, ThePoint said: Completely missed the point. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Mandy said: Would you mind explaining how I'm malnourished in your opinion? Absolutely You go first, I'm about to eat my dinner and then I'm back Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @ThePointThink i might have hit the point 😉 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoint Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, WhiteOwl said: What was your point then? Sorry, I missed your message before I left, just like you missed my point. I guess think of it as layers. Not sure if that's where you're at right now. Look at your previous posts and you can see some clear patterns emerging. And if you recognise some guru/follower energy inside that might carry you somewhere. It's your journey, if you think that you can see a projection somewhere please feel free to learn from it. @Mandy Whenever you're ready to follow up on your words. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @ThePoint huh? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 21 minutes ago, ThePoint said: It's your journey, if you think that you can see a projection somewhere please feel free to learn from it. Thanks ❤️ Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noomii Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 (edited) On 1/28/2024 at 8:48 PM, Mandy said: Would you mind explaining how I'm malnourished in your opinion? @ThePoint I'd like to hear it as well. Edited January 30 by noomii Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inno Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 @ThePoint Are you related/influenced to/by Paul Chek by any chance? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePoint Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Inno said: @ThePoint Are you related/influenced to/by Paul Chek by any chance? Not directly, but I did a podcast with him a few years back. And I met plenty of CHEK practitioners in the UK and the US. We share a lot of common ground, I spent a good amount of time in India and had similar influences, his teacher Rowena trained alongside mine etc... We also disagree on a few things (I'm more of a yoga and martial arts guy, he recommends stretches and strength conditioning but I can see the reason behind it considering his work). We both use taichi with our clients. I think he calls it zone exercises now. I think he started with rehab/athlete training work etc. I don't remember now. I started from a different direction as I was specifically dealing with PTSD/CPTSD and complex fragmentation. And I believe we both sort of went in the direction that you can't have one without the other (body-mind-spirit-emotional balance). But I'm not nearly as old as he is 😁😁 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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