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  1. Where is this Divine Bliss you're talking about? Never seen, heard, tasted, touched or smelled it myself. How is it different than "Human joy"?
  2. @ThePoint Are you related/influenced to/by Paul Chek by any chance?
  3. When we were children, we would randomly pick a word and start repeating, it until it sounded silly. Why not do the same with thoughts that don't feel good?
  4. "By focusing on the breath, I'm ignoring all of the thoughts and wounds I have" ~ Guilt felt Focus is a peculiar thing. It's like a lens, a space, which is "filled with" what is focused upon. In this sense it is quite literally impossible to ignore anything. There is no duality of Ignoring something <> Focusing upon something. There is just focus. So ignoring all of the wounds I have is not really an experience of ignoring anything. It's focusing on the thought "ignoring whathever" and feeling the guidance of guilt.
  5. How to be certain that the abovementioned are conceptualizations and not the emotions listed on the scale? How is sorrow conceptualization and despair or grief not? How is hopelessness conceptualization and powerlessness not? How to be 100% certain the emotional scale is an exhaustive list and there is nothing left out? How to differentiate between conceptualization and emotion?
  6. @Phil If the majority of emotions experienced is within the black/grey end of the emotional scale, does that mean that it is the case because the higher emotion/s are not acknowledged (jealousy, hate/rage) or because the emotion experienced is not expressed?
  7. It appears it all boils down to discord/alignment and "the work", doesn't it? :) It makes sense though, I've had good nights sleep and in most cases I did not intentionally do anything for it, so kinda happens naturally/when out of the way. Yes, sleep is not experienced directly I guess. What is experienced is the moment prior to falling asleep, as well as the moment after waking up. What about dreams though? This sounds very interesting. Can you explain more about that rewiring? I've never heard anyone talk about it. Is this the video you refer to? "Thought simply does not define perception" in what regard do you mention that? Does it mean that all body related experience is still experience of perception/sensation? And also, since you've barely heard anyone talk about it, do you think it's possible for everyone? Have you met anyone else experiencing this? Is it a "part of the way" so to speak? Also, would you be open to share your daily routine? As to when do you wake up, diet, sleep, exercise, etc? Not necessary if too personal of course. :) It seems like the separate self is being accused/demonised in a lot of the non-dual circles. Why does it have to do with me/my/mine and not with simply misunderstood thought/beliefs? Or does it mean that all such thought/beliefs are based on underlying "me/my/mine" beliefs? I will have to reflect on this for a while:) Thanks!
  8. @Mandy I agree, it is easy to start expecting to feel a certain way based on the data from the wearable. I don't think it affects me that much tbh, it's just something I've noticed being quite consistent is the waking up during night's sleep. Otherwise it's kinda weird, I've just spent 3-4 days in the mountaints with a friend and he was doing night shifts. I ended up getting to bed later than my usual hours- think 12:30-02:00 AM and getting up at 9. The data from the Oura was terrible- 4-5hrs of sleep in total, however I did not feel bad during the day. Did not even want to nap or anything, was quite alert and calm. Maybe it has a lot to do with the environment and the change as well, because the day I got back to my routine and went to work I felt extremely tired in the early afternoon. Thank you for the practical recommendations, I will look into them. I do drink coffee and try to limit my intake to be up until 3 PM, maybe I should try to push it back a bit.
  9. I've been using an Oura ring for the past 3 months, and one thing that stands out quite consistently is the quality of my sleep. For the past months almost every night my sleep is interrupted and I wake up in the middle of the night, sometimes even 2-3 times. I don't wake up energized at all. I feel the amount of sleep I get is sufficient enough not to have a terrible effect on me, however I would say it's not optimal. For reference I'm getting around 1 hr of Deep Sleep on average. How is your sleep? Have you struggled with it? What actions have you taken in order to improve? @Phil I remember you saying somewhere you sleep a lot less than 8hrs. How's that going for you? Any tips?
  10. @Phil It seems like it would take forever to finish the scale. I barely move 3-4 bars on it for 30 minutes. It also is quite draining thb, like it requires quite a bit of concentration to do this work. Out of curiousity, how long did you spend with the scale initially when you started this type of practice? Let alone finish it?
  11. "How do you feel?" - Probably one of the hardest questions to answer. During therapy it was the same, I still had difficulties answering the question. I can't give an exact answer. I just... don't know. I can't tell. Or even if I say something, it barely changes anything. Aren't you thinking a few steps in advance? Acknowledging how you feel is not about changing anything. "Even if I say how I feel, this does not change a thing" - Why would you want to change it? "Because I don't like how I feel. And I don't want to feel this way." Alright, but the question was "How do you feel?", why do we have to go in the direction "there is no point in telling/expressing how I feel, because i doesn't change it"? Emotional Intelligence. Maybe it's just that, being able to distinguish what is happening on the inside and what emotions are being felt. Now that's some interesting correlations. It seems that asking "How do you/I feel?" triggers a bunch of other statements and conclusions, without even noticing. Even further, Guilt, Insecurity, Shame are being felt, when an answer to the question is not given. "I don't know how I feel, therefore I can't do anything to feel better" ~ Insecurity, Guilt, Powerlessness "I am supposed to know how to feel better" ~ Guilt "But I don't" ~ Guilt, Fear, Insecurity "If I don't feel good/better, I can't do anything in Life" "If I am always depressed, insecure, people won't like me & won't want to be around me. Or they would do so out of pity" ~ Unworthiness, Insecurity "I am depressed. I am insecure." - Is this really true? "I am insecure. Am I insecure all the time, always?" "I don't feel insecurty now. So does it mean that I change? OR just that I can't be anything, let alone insecure. It's an emotion felt." Depression would be more like a label. For emotions experienced in the grey/black bars. And thoughts believed.
  12. "There is no self/separate self" ~ Insecurity, Fear There seem to be such claims, that don't resonate. I see such terms used all over and they are met with Fear, Insecurity. Would that mean there is something else related, that is not expressed? What does "There is no self" mean? What is the implication of such claim? It seems like every thought/perspective is inherently meaningful, as in meaning is not something seperate. "There is no meaning" therefore can't be true, as the very same thought implies the meaning. Thought is inherently meaningful. What if there is a self? What would that mean? What would change then? "There is no self" vs. "There is a self" If there is a self, that would mean that there is other than self too. Seperate self. Seperate from what? Seperate from the world? From Reality? All subjects therefore would be the implication of the seperate self. As in subject is different or separate from object. Awareness aware of ________. Would that imply that Awareness is the subject? This does not seem to confirm or deny the initial statement. How to go about it? If there is a self, then there would be Awareness, aware of the self, and the self itself. Other than Awareness would mean separate from Awareness. This is going nowhere. What would be an example of a separate self? "I am doing this" "I am doing that" "I'm aware of this" "I can do this" "I can't do this" "I know this" "I know that" The implication of the above is that there is a self doing X, a self aware of Y, a self that can/can't, a self that knows. It would essentialy refer to the "I". How is that I related to Awareness? There is no need for I, for Awareness to be. The I or seperate self is only present when thoughts about it appear. Ahh, this is more dificult than I expected. I need a break.
  13. "I am not sure whether I should write what I think first, and then try to calibrate as to the emotion felt, or just state which emotion is being felt" ~ Insecurity "Does every thought resonate at a certain emotional frequency?" ~ Insecurity "I've used the scale a few times and I felt better, but I don't know how it works and whether it's a long term solution" ~ Worry, Doubt, Insecurity "Worry, Doubt and Insecurity are worlds away on the scale. Is it possible to feel all 3 related to a thought or perspective?" ~ Insecurity "I think I'm conceptualizing everything" ~ Despair, Fear, Insecurity, Guilt "Does it have to be linear? Does expression follow the structure of the scale?" ~ Doubt "It's just someone's idea for fucks sake. You can't fit your whole emotional world in a freaking scale and expect the world to move around it" ~ Anger "Why should I use it?" ~ Anger "Everything that follows a certain structure feels imposed on me, as in I have to follow something/someone else's will" ~ ... "I have to dress up and go to work. How to keep up with all this stuff when I have to work and perform?" ~ Discouragement, Worry, Insecurity "This seems robotic. Can't I just freely write and express what I think?"
  14. I've decided to finally create a public journal. A lot of mixed feelings about it. Nevertheless, the purpose of it is to mainly try and utilize the emotional scale. I say try, because I had been introduced to it around 2 years ago, used it a couple of times and didn't get the result I was expecting. From there on the belief that I can't express emotion and don't know how to use it came about. Why around the fire? Well, once while journaling I imagined a dark night with a campfire. Different parts of me were sitting around the fire, welcomed and part of the group. There were noises in the dark, like wild animals passing by, outside of the light from the fire. I kind of imagine repression the same way. Scared, fearful, angry parts that do not feel like part of the party. And once welcomed, they are not that scary noise in the dark, danger is not projected upon them anymore. We seem them as they are. Seemed like a good analogy.
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