Orb Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 This liberating insight just dawned on me. No reason whatsoever for a man/woman to like you as a friend or be romantically interested. If a girls attracted to you, she's attracted to you, same vice versa. There's no reason that's just it plain and simple. It's not because you smell good, it's not because you acted a certain way, it's not because of how you look. No conditions, unconditional. Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 In a way it's true. But it's tough in real life. I was attracted to a guy last year and it was so instant. There was no reason why I liked him. When I told him that, he began showing interest in me as well. But there was a difference. My attraction was unconditional. His was not. Every day he would tell me things like "I like this about you," or "you're a perfect girlfriend." One day he lost interest in me and broke off. He didn't find the relationship perfect and so he wanted to end it. This is the problem. When you are attracted to someone unconditionally, it has to go both ways. If the other person likes you for reasons, they will also find reasons to leave you. It's painful but it's the truth. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Reena said: it has to go both ways. That's a condition though. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mandy said: That's a condition though. Yup. The condition of unconditionality. Otherwise it doesn't blend. It's like you're trying to mix oil with water. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 23 minutes ago, Reena said: Yup. The condition of unconditionality. Otherwise it doesn't blend. It's like you're trying to mix oil with water. Can there be freedom from freedom? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Can there be freedom from freedom? No idea how that would look like! Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Reena said: No idea how that would look like! Is "limitless" a limitation? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Just now, Jonas Long said: Is "limitless" a limitation? No. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, Reena said: No idea how that would look like! In other words, can something be called "unconditional" if it hinges on one condition? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: In other words, can something be called "unconditional" if it hinges on one condition? But it can't be called a condition if the unconditionality needs an environment. Here it's not a condition within a condition. It's existential. If you asked me if water is pure, I would say yes. Yet if water is placed at an extremely high temperature, the boiling point, it will evaporate and simply stop existing. It will vaporize and it will disappear. Although the purity of water did not change, but it no longer exists in its liquid form. Similarly unconditionality can exist of it's own volition and it is unconditional standalone, yet when put to test it can only exist if the environment is conducive that is the other person is unconditional too. This doesn't change its own property. Yet the relationship becomes dysfunctional. That is the purity of unconditionality is not in question. But it doesn't serve the purpose of a harmonious relationship. On the other hand, it becomes much more viable and functional if both parties like one another unconditionally. Edited October 23, 2023 by Reena Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Reena said: My attraction was unconditional. Would you have been attracted if he was actually a she, a woman? Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reena Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 45 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: Would you have been attracted if he was actually a she, a woman? I'm heterosexual. That's my biology. Quote Mention So basically I'm an autistic INFJ BPD sigma Pisces female with anger and CPTSD issues. Wow wow. My plate looks full. I Couldn't have been weirder than that. Now I get why I'm so idiosyncratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 8:25 PM, Reena said: But it can't be called a condition if the unconditionality needs an environment. Here it's not a condition within a condition. It's existential. If you asked me if water is pure, I would say yes. Yet if water is placed at an extremely high temperature, the boiling point, it will evaporate and simply stop existing. It will vaporize and it will disappear. Although the purity of water did not change, but it no longer exists in its liquid form. Similarly unconditionality can exist of it's own volition and it is unconditional standalone, yet when put to test it can only exist if the environment is conducive that is the other person is unconditional too. This doesn't change its own property. Yet the relationship becomes dysfunctional. That is the purity of unconditionality is not in question. But it doesn't serve the purpose of a harmonious relationship. On the other hand, it becomes much more viable and functional if both parties like one another unconditionally. The conditon is that there are people. There is only an experience of the thought, ‘people’. Same for voilition, environment, and if the other person is unconditional. People aren’t unconditional. “People” is a condition. It’s not possible for people to like or love each other unconditionally. The condition is that there are people. Peace is great, but it isn’t absolutely satisfying. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's foes will be members of one's own household” Jesus Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, Phil said: “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one's foes will be members of one's own household” Jesus You know I heard a pastor use this scripture to justify battling against the other religions and to encourage divisiveness? lol Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Just now, Orb said: You know I heard a pastor use this scripture to justify battling against the other religions and to encourage divisiveness? lol 🤦 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) There's good reason for others to like me. This is a great example of the saying "what you think about is what you become". You can choose empowering thoughts or even none at all. Edited November 18, 2023 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 On 10/22/2023 at 11:43 PM, Orb said: This liberating insight just dawned on me. No reason whatsoever for a man/woman to like you as a friend or be romantically interested. If a girls attracted to you, she's attracted to you, same vice versa. There's no reason that's just it plain and simple. It's not because you smell good, it's not because you acted a certain way, it's not because of how you look. No conditions, unconditional. I like going the other way. Why wouldn't everyone want to love you? Everyone wants to feel love! 😁 Everyone wants to fall in love with you... They just don't recognize it, because of innocent conditioning. Quote Mention There must be an effortless way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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