Jonas Long Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Devin said: Why would someone that satisfies all their own needs(independent) seek a relationship? That's the kind of neo-feminist cognitive dissonance I was referring to earlier. For loooove!? 🤣🤣 You reeeaaaally have a Disney fixation, don't you? Seems like Disney hurt you bad, so sorry. For love, yes, and for a healthy relationship that isn't codependent. That is what a healthy relationship entails, two independent individuals who choose to be together. Choose. Not need. Neediness is not attractive. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: You reeeaaaally have a Disney fixation, don't you? Seems like Disney hurt you bad, so sorry. For love, yes, and for a healthy relationship that isn't codependent. That is what a healthy relationship entails, two independent individuals who choose to be together. Choose. Not need. Neediness is not attractive. Cognitive Dissonance, you're using co-depency wrong too, you mean dependence. "The following are some examples that illustrate the difference: Dependent: Two people rely on each other for support and love. Both find value in the relationship. Codependent: The codependent person feels worthless unless they are needed by — and making drastic sacrifices for — the enabler. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com › ... Codependent relationships: Symptoms, warning signs, and ..." I love Disney even still as an adult, it's just a common idiom I think, you know what I mean like the rom com movie "love". Edited October 3, 2023 by Devin Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 @Devin I would love a Disney symbolism thread. Never was that big on Disney, but the symbolism only gets better and better when you see all characters and aspects in the story as symbolic as aspects of the same Self/Author. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Devin said: For loooove!? To love. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devin said: Cognitive Dissonance, you're using co-depency wrong too, you mean dependence. I love Disney even still as an adult, it's just a common idiom I think, you know what I mean like the rom com movie "love". Neo feminism is gonna take away yer Disney boy! Now I get it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Phil said: To love. You think that's why a lot of people(imaginary or this narrative whatever you wanna call it) get in relationships? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Neo feminism is gonna take away yer Disney boy! Now I get it. I like black mermaid and whatever else they cried about. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devin said: I like black mermaid and whatever else they cried about. i don't even know what black mermaid is, but it's obvious now that you are the one who is attached to the disney thing. and youre right, neo feminism IS probably a threat to disney. fuck disney. and fuck rom coms, i don't watch either of those things, but from what i know they represent the anithesis of the kind of healthy relationship i'm talking about that isn't about codependency OR dependency. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: i don't even know what black mermaid is, but it's obvious now that you are the one who is attached to the disney thing. and youre right, neo feminism IS probably a threat to disney. fuck disney. and fuck rom coms, i don't watch either of those things, but from what i know they represent the anithesis of the kind of healthy relationship i'm talking about that isn't about codependency OR dependency. Neo feminism isn't attacking Disney, we didn't understand eachother like usual, I meant conservatives. You still don't know what dependence means "The following are some examples that illustrate the difference: Dependent: Two people rely on each other for support and love. Both find value in the relationship. Codependent: The codependent person feels worthless unless they are needed by — and making drastic sacrifices for — the enabler. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com › ... Codependent relationships: Symptoms, warning signs, and ..." Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Gottman is the relationship king, tell me he's wrong. "Is dependence good in a relationship? Healthy dependence as an act of turning toward That vulnerability creates intimacy, and the feeling of being needed helps your partner feel more secure in the relationship. https://www.gottman.com › blog Healthy Dependence as a Path Toward Healthy Relationships" Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devin said: Neo feminism isn't attacking Disney, we didn't understand eachother like usual, I meant conservatives. You still don't know what dependence means "The following are some examples that illustrate the difference: Dependent: Two people rely on each other for support and love. Both find value in the relationship. Codependent: The codependent person feels worthless unless they are needed by — and making drastic sacrifices for — the enabler. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com › ... Codependent relationships: Symptoms, warning signs, and ..." But generally your problem with neo feminism seems to be they are discouraging the Disney type of idealistic romance? Or tell me again what you problem with neo feminism is. It's not "Men shouldn't be masculine" that's a bullshit lazy meaningless write off. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: But generally your problem with neo feminism seems to be they are discouraging the Disney type of idealistic romance? Or tell me again what you problem with neo feminism is. It's not "Men shouldn't be masculine" that's a bullshit lazy meaningless write off. No, I oppose disney romance. They oppose having traditional gender roles. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, Devin said: Why would someone that satisfies all their own needs(independent) seek a relationship? That's the kind of neo-feminist cognitive dissonance I was referring to earlier. For loooove!? 🤣🤣 Isn't the thing about all those characters that they can't satisfy their own needs? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Isn't the thing about all those characters that they can't satisfy their own needs? I'm not the Disney expert you make it out to be but.... sure Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Devin said: No, I oppose disney romance. They oppose having traditional gender roles. Your complicated relationship with Disney is not my interest or concern. Take @Mandy up and start a Disney thread maybe. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: Your complicated relationship with Disney is not my interest or concern. Take @Mandy up and start a Disney thread maybe. By 'they' I meant neo-feminists, that's my grievance with them. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Devin said: I'm not the Disney expert you make it out to be but.... sure Ok, so then you proved the opposite of what your point was meant to be. The only thing giving me cognitive dissonance here is attempting to figure out what your point is supposed to be. I give up. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Devin said: No, I oppose disney romance. They oppose having traditional gender roles. 1 minute ago, Devin said: By 'they' I meant neo-feminists, that's my grievance with them. Lol what? Disney or the neo fems? WHOSE agenda?? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Jonas Long said: Lol what? Disney or the neo fems? WHOSE agenda?? I oppose disney romance. Neo fems oppose traditional gender roles, which is my grievance with neofems Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Ok, so then you proved the opposite of what your point was meant to be. The only thing giving me cognitive dissonance here is attempting to figure out what your point is supposed to be. I give up. That's not the part of Disney Love I disagree with, I disagree with the love part, like "ohhhh, he's the one!!!!", so dreamy!!!!", like the whole 'falling in love' is b.s.. like they get married and the colors change, birds come flying all over, 'live happily ever after'. You've never heard the phrase 'Disney love'? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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