Meditation

[Jonas Long]

10 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

  It's at a higher level though.  

Oh?  Higher than what/who?

[Joseph Maynor]

Here's something I disagree with -- "the woke person is always meditating."  No way!   You're not always meditating ever.  It sounds enticing/attractive/natural on some level, but it's not right or true.   Even if you're woke AF you still need to do daily meditation.  This is a trap I'm letting you know.  You're not always meditating.  Meditating is its own thing.   Never think you're always meditating.  You're taking too high of an opinion of yourself.  You're deluding yourself there.  It's tempting, I used to say that too.  I used to parrot that.  It's a trap.  A lot of this work is getting past thoughts that other people say to try to avoid doing the work.  It's a bad influence!  Meditation is its own thing.  Imagine someone saying you're always running so everyone is running a marathon every day.  That's ridiculous.  If you think you're too good to practice meditation -- you're the kind of person who doesn't meditate.  That's it.  You wouldn't know.  You couldn't know.  But don't pretend to do something you don't do.  You wouldn't pretend to play 3 hours of basketball a day.   The master does daily meditation.  It's a given.  It's a key practice if you want to do higher self-help work.  Don't do it at your own peril.  But if you don't do it, you'll have the characteristic signature of someone who doesn't regularly meditate.  It is what it is.  

Edited November 5, 2023 by Joseph Maynor

[Orb]

12 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Here's something I disagree with -- "the woke person is always meditating."  No way!   You're not always meditating ever.  It sounds enticing/attractive/natural on some level, but it's not right or true.   Even if you're woke AF you still need to do daily meditation.  This is a trap I'm letting you know.  You're not always meditating.  Meditating is its own thing.   Never think you're always meditating.  You're taking too high of an opinion of yourself.  You're deluding yourself there.  It's tempting, I used to say that too.  I used to parrot that.  It's a trap.  A lot of this work is getting past thoughts that other people say to try to avoid doing the work.  It's a bad influence!  Meditation is its own thing.  Imagine someone saying you're always running so everyone is running a marathon every day.  That's ridiculous.  If you think you're too good to practice meditation -- you're the kind of person who doesn't meditate.  That's it.  You wouldn't know.  You couldn't know.  But don't pretend to do something you don't do.  You wouldn't pretend to play 3 hours of basketball a day.   

It's not that you're always meditating, it's that the "you" implied isn't actually real.

 

Daily meditation is a very fruitful practice ime.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Orb

[Devin]

So what do you guys meditate for? To be more calm, less anxious, more aware, more mindful? I never stuck to.meditating, I use it as a parachute if I start feeling like something is getting to.be too much, but it sort of happens naturally, I usually wind up splayed out flat on the floor and just let it all go.

Edited November 5, 2023 by Devin

[Jonas Long]

32 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

But if you don't do it, you'll have the characteristic signature of someone who doesn't regularly meditate.  It is what it is.  

Same with sex.

[Orb]

33 minutes ago, Devin said:

So what do you guys meditate for? To be more calm, less anxious, more aware, more mindful? I never stuck to.meditating, I use it as a parachute if I start feeling like something is getting to.be too much, but it sort of happens naturally, I usually wind up splayed out flat on the floor and just let it all go.

Sit down for 20-30 minutes and pay attention to sensation or the sense of your existence and you'll find out for yourself.

[Devin]

23 minutes ago, Orb said:

Sit down for 20-30 minutes and pay attention to sensation or the sense of your existence and you'll find out for yourself.

Impossible, spoons.

[Orb]

58 minutes ago, Devin said:

Impossible, spoons.

Okay then good luck with that. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by Orb

[Jonas Long]

Spendin boons

[Blessed2]

Meditation is not for becoming enlightened, but for letting go discordant thoughts about becoming enlightened.

 

Edited November 26, 2023 by Blessed2

[Phil]

Apparently only 3-4% of the population meditate, while the rest wonder how there can be so much conflict in the world. 

[Orb]

10 hours ago, Phil said:

Apparently only 3-4% of the population meditate, while the rest wonder how there can be so much conflict in the world. 

That is crazy! We gotta bump that number up...

[MetaSage]

On 12/26/2023 at 4:33 PM, Phil said:

Apparently only 3-4% of the population meditate, while the rest wonder how there can be so much conflict in the world. 

where's that taken from? some study?

[Phil]

3 minutes ago, MetaSage said:

where's that taken from? some study?

What is apparent isn’t really ‘taken from’. 

Meditation. 

[Phil]

Misnomers; Meditation, Teachers, Nonduality. 

https://www.actualityofbeing.com/blog/2024/3/22/misnomers-meditation-nonduality

 

What’s the point, the relevance?

The originally mentioned misnomers, the ‘teacher’s’ insights - in accordance with direct experience - are an experience of - Beta waves.

Yet, the actual direct experience of insights is an experience of - Gamma waves.

[Isagi Yoichi]

11 hours ago, Phil said:

Yet, the actual direct experience of insights is an experience of - Gamma waves.

How to operate in the gamma waves field ?

[Phil]

@Isagi Yoichi

Meditation. 🙂

 

Not operate in; create the experience of. 

[Phil]

Muhammad Ali would hang in the ropes and get beat rather mercilessly for many rounds.

Mike Tyson would get punched maybe once or twice and end the fight rather immediately, most often in less than two minutes.

 

Ali experienced the onset of Parkinson’s just three years after retiring from boxing and remained a champ in spite of increasing difficulties walking & talking. 

Mike Tyson has a podcast, runs a cannabis company and still participates in exhibition boxing matches. 

 

Technically both approaches worked. 

 

An analogy for thought attachment / suffering and adopting the practice / meditation (swiftly). 

[Jane]

On 7/26/2023 at 12:14 PM, Phil said:

 

 

“The world is afflicted by death and decay. But the wise do not grieve, having realized the nature of the world.”

-The Enlightened One. 

 

 

Meditation is Medication for the Realised Yogi.