nurthur11

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I don't know you tell me. There is Phil but there isn't a self. You don't have a self.

Two parts. The part of perceiving and what is perceived. These two parts make one part which is perception - then after you have perception your good to go. You can find perception also in awareness. Actually, awareness is the purest form of perception.

Forward!

@OrbJust forward! Effortlessly; you end up sabotaging yourself. 😛 Go deeper into I am. Forward!

Awareness is the remanence of consciousness - they both inherit the sense I am but not only

There are different ways how you can think about self. One way is to ask if your identity, personality and character is similar with all human beings and the other from the perspective of how you experience or not experience your self to be. Are all humans same to you?

Your getting gaslighted by a 2500 old idea ; and yes, I don't always read my own words. Here is the practical conventional: Mindfulness meditation (pay attention to the present moment and observe your thoughts and feelings without judgement), Focus on the breath, Practice self-inquiry "Who am I?" and "What is the self?" and let go of any answers that come up. Cultivate feelings of love and kindness towards yourself and others, which can help you let go of a narrow, self-centered perspective. Good luck!

You might be stressed about something. It happens to me that meditation increases stress. Don't forget that there is like a basic psychological reaction to forcing yourself to do something or to let go of something. For me I get less stressful when I meditate with someone else. I like to meditate with my mother or my brother - my gf doesn't find it so interesting. In fact focusing increases stress let go of focusing and resting might increase activity in the mind so it will increase stress. Multitasking increases stress. You might be a stressed person like I am.

It sounds like you have strong feelings about nondualism and spirituality. Every person's journey and understanding of self is unique, and there is no right or wrong way to approach the concept of "no self." Some individuals find solace and clarity in these ideas, while others may find them confusing or unhelpful. It's important to find what resonates with you and what helps you live a fulfilling life.

I dont know Philip. How to explain it to you. Dont think about it too much. The feeling that you are aware is good in practical terms. Are you aware? Who is it that is aware? No one is aware.

What is no self then? Get a life btw.

Relax man. Okay, try to attend your breath while doing that notice that you are aware of attending your breath. That is no self.

Don't go out looking for more of you and a better of you if it comes it comes. Don't concern about your feeling when you have to work do the work push yourself, try your best. If you want to do the work, of course. Don't give your all, outsmart, be fast, get strong bullshit. Don't take of your cloths, "kill yourself" you don't have do bleed out to be successful, happy or fulfilled . Don't go searching for the actuality. Everyone is afraid and will be afraid in the future that how it is. I don't agree with doing only what makes you feel good.

I am going to give you the same advice as I give myself. Your mind, body active "energy" whatever you want to call it will go towards exciting ideas even if they do bad to you in the long term. Dont put your focus into "ah i sabotage myself because i done a mistake" "others are treating me bad" "how dare they ask me about my past they are trying to gaslight me" "now i hurt myself and they will see what they done to me". Don't try to find an explanation about this please. I willingly went unconscious and went in front of the car today the guy who was driving(taxi) stopped at the last moment. I was embarrassed even more after this since i was with a friend and just earlier i had a fight with another friend - if I try to find explanation and try to say sorry "I was not trying to be bad at others but you were bad to me now I went in front of car" and so on and so forth it would just progress even more this way of being. There is impossible to find a good explanation about our being. You don't live inside of yourself. Eventually I would identify as self sabotage or as that or as this. Everyone self sabotage, hurts and so on. You have a life, hope you have a job and hope the weather is good in your country.

The first person perspective or your direct experience if you observe it as an experience you will notice your feelings, thoughts and so on but all of these will change. Sometimes is more solid, sometimes its thinking and so on. You can of course be aware of yourself, your self experience, your feelings - but it doesn't necessary mean that you will anything in it. It is good to know yourself and learn about yourself. This doesn't necessary mean that you wont change in the future. Sometimes we go on a path and realize is not what we wanted and visa versa. Every moment you are changing and you don't know what you will like in the future and this is good. If you think you have learned all about yourself and you are awakened you will stagnated into enteral drunkenness' "bliss". You don't live inside yourself you live in the world. There is not a good explanation about this and there is not a good explanation about reality and the world so don't try so hard. There is a story about Buddha staying under the tree how many years then we he finally stopped his meditation, they asked him what have you learned he said lets go eat. As I understand at that time they were not eating since it was considered as a pleasurable activity.

You can be aware of relationships but not necessary you will find an explanation about everything. Relationships are just as they are and you are fit for them everyone is fit for them. Life not necessarily has to have an explanation. Great philosophers and scientist couldn't explain it and were empoisoned by their concept ideas, past traumas like everyone else. Finding explanation's many times is a trap. Not necessary life has to be intuitive or grasped by our intellect, awareness, attention. Don't forget that still in 2022 people have issue defining what is attention were is in the brain let alone what is awareness.

Suggestions like pointers you mean?

A belief that yourself has a form?

I just recently saw the 4 pillars of mindfulness by Buddha and the 4th is dharma? How do you understand it in your own words?

What is the anchor then? How do i know i am living my maximum potential? You get the idea of what i am trying to say. We all want to be better with others and have stronger relationships, make fewer sins/mistakes and also be able stand up on our own two feet’s. For this i believe that there needs to be an anchor which help us build this optimism and hope(maybe this is other people). So far I know that doing one things at the time helps, staying close to the people that surrounds me helps, serve others helps but i am not so great at this. I know have tested with various forms of practicing “attention” “awareness” or being yet i believe that is not healthy to be aware of our being all the time since we are already aware. Who am I should be pretty much a counter response to this I that is formed in times of hard criticism, shame, fear? I understand it has to be experiential but i am not sure to what extend we would be aware of it happening. Is a place where self get lost unexpectedly yet i cant find an anchor that helps me comeback to it.

So you suggest a form of letting it untangle until it feels not discordant. Well played - I agree!

I hope it resonates with you. These are like a full on experience for me. I just saw a movie and it says I feel like reliving the past and for me this is how these moments feel. For me these moments come with feeling anxious, hyped and a since i relate them with a different sense of reality now i very much focus in this. I can change on how i experience the story and focus on how i am seeing things i.e. when they happen. I can relate these moments with anything but the core story of what happened doesn't change. Let If you know how you deal with these if you know what i am talking about.

Any method/way of living or type of existence that is unified or whole so to speak will lead you towards a type of self realization which will most definitely contain awareness type of self realization: looking for love or guiding yourself with true love, praying, feeling, attending, supporting others; ramana maharshi who am i. It has to be both experiential and a belief so to speak so that it is casual/everlasting.

@Loop @James123 Luv you both. Awareness is free thought is illusion. I (nurthur12) still very stupid.