Mandy Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 @Alexander Name calling is prohibited as in the guidelines. https://community.actualityofbeing.com/guidelines/ Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aetheroar Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Root yourself in direct experience. There is nothing there which points to anything called a will, free or not. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) What do you think? You're a smart guy. Give us something to work off or riff off. Edited February 4 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Ba ba, ba? Edited February 16 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 @Joseph Maynor free will is a complete illusion. What's the next thought in your mind? Maybe Donald Trump taking a dumb on the bible.. Isn't our thoughts chaotic and unpredictable and out of whack? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Someone here said: @Joseph Maynor free will is a complete illusion. What's the next thought in your mind? Maybe Donald Trump taking a dumb on the bible.. Isn't our thoughts chaotic and unpredictable and out of whack? Free will seems to need a hook to hang on in the form of a self or I that can be free. I don't take a hard position on this issue because I don't take a hard position on the self vs./and other duality. I don't take a hard position on truth in relation to the self either. I'm cool with people who disagree with this too. I definitely don't want to fight anyone over their point of view regarding the self because that's a dodgy issue from my perspective, and I realize people might not share my fluid and shape-shifty take on the concept of the self and the other. And I also assume I could be wrong too. I do not think I have everything figured out. Just so you know where I'm coming from. I see truth as a multivarious concept, not a single fixed designation. Edited February 16 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 13 hours ago, Someone here said: Isn't our thoughts chaotic and unpredictable and out of whack? ‘Our thoughts’ is a thought believed, not grounded in reality / direct experience. That could be said to be anything (chaotic & unpredictable) as it’s not actual. What’s ’out of whack’ isn’t thought. Thought arises seamlessly in perfect accordance and is highly predictable therein. @Joseph Maynor If in fact free will is the thought, ‘free will’, and isn’t actual or a thing… can free will still be thought or believed to ‘need’? The self which isn’t taking a position, is the taking a position, as it’s inherently a claim that there is a separate self, isn’t it so? Truth which is a concept is not truth, and is a concept, yes? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someone here Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 @Phil i don't really worry about it. I just want to know whether i as a human being have free choice or is everything predestined from the get go . Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 @Someone here The human condition. ♥️ Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 10 hours ago, Phil said: ‘Our thoughts’ is a thought believed, not grounded in reality / direct experience. That could be said to be anything (chaotic & unpredictable) as it’s not actual. What’s ’out of whack’ isn’t thought. Thought arises seamlessly in perfect accordance and is highly predictable therein. @Joseph Maynor If in fact free will is the thought, ‘free will’, and isn’t actual or a thing… can free will still be thought or believed to ‘need’? The self which isn’t taking a position, is the taking a position, as it’s inherently a claim that there is a separate self, isn’t it so? Truth which is a concept is not truth, and is a concept, yes? I think the solipsism thing is a trap on the path precisely because it is a belief. You can't box in Infinity like that. That's a tool at best. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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