Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, nurthur11 said: He says that awareness is the free will that we want. Which for me it is sufficient when answering this topic. Your brain generates "awareness".Same as decisions you made. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nurthur11 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Alexander said: From a third person perspective we don't have an answer even for our existence. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, nurthur11 said: From a third person perspective we don't have an answer even for our existence. You are just a human .What's wrong with that.An animal which sometimes beleives it will transcend death with "awareness". Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alexander said: You are just a human .What's wrong with that.An animal which sometimes beleives it will transcend death with "awareness". How do you know what is an "human"? Because you have been "told"? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, James123 said: How do you know what is an "human"? Because you have been "told"? Question of the topic is free will.Scientfic experiments are in favor of determinism.None of your "awareness" BS talk is related.Make separate thread if you want to talk about "Awareness". Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Alexander said: Question of the topic is free will.Scientfic experiments are in favor of determinism.None of your "awareness" BS talk is related.Make separate thread if you want to talk about "Awareness". This question goes same as for free will too. What is it? Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, James123 said: This question goes same as for free will too. What is it? We "live" in deterministic Universe.I was meant to read your sentence and to respond. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Alexander said: We "live" in deterministic Universe. That's your "thought" as free will. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Alexander said: We "live" in deterministic Universe.I was meant to read your sentence and to respond. @Alexander you're literally making this up on the fly lol, do you recognize this? Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, James123 said: That's your "thought" as free will. You have no control over your thoughts.Take little experiment write down about what you want to think set alarm clock just 10 minutes ahead.Go meditate and see what happens write thought that accured when alarm ringed. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Orb said: @Alexander you're literally making this up on the fly lol, do you recognize this? I am not making anything up. Determinism frees you up from so many things .Especially LoA BS and similar theories. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alexander said: You have no control over your thoughts.Take little experiment write down about what you want to think set alarm clock just 10 minutes ahead.Go meditate and see what happens write thought that accured when alarm ringed. 😂😂 There is no one to control anything. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, James123 said: 😂😂 There is no one to control anything. You would realize that your "monkey -mind" (I am so spiritual) is generating thoughts on it's own all already pre-determined. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Alexander said: You would realize that your "monkey -mind" (I am so spiritual) is generating thoughts on it's own all already pre-determined. Meanwhile these are all comes from monkey mind, therefore enlightenment is must. Monkey mind can never comprehend no mind. If you think that these are sentences, good luck. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, James123 said: Meanwhile these are all comes from monkey mind, therefore enlightenment is must. Monkey mind can never comprehend no mind. If you think that these are sentences, good luck. So you agree that all @Phil word salads are de facto activity of his monkey mind. Enlightenment is realization of Infinite Love not his blabberings or yours about no mind. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 @Alexander so a belief system has freed you up from other belief systems? Do you recognize whats really going on here? You really think some word called "determinism" is really of any use? What has this word done for you other than allow "you" to continue accumulating more knowledge? Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Alexander said: So you agree that all @Phil word salads are de facto activity of his monkey mind. Enlightenment is realization of Infinite Love not his blabberings or yours about no mind. Enlightenment is Infinite love?🤦 do you even meditate? If you believe that these are words, any word comes from monkey mind. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Orb said: @Alexander so a belief system has freed you up from other belief systems? Do you recognize whats really going on here? You really think some word called "determinism" is really of any use? What has this word done for you other than allow "you" to continue accumulating more knowledge? Knowledge is power. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, James123 said: Enlightenment is Infinite love?🤦 do you even meditate? If you believe that these are words, any word comes from monkey mind. Yes enlightenment is realization that Everything is God/Love and what God is ,is Infinite Love.You have to experience it no words can describe it.No mind is easy to achieve. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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