Humanity is using Sex in a Very Dangerous way

[Orb]

3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Some thoughts feel unbearable. 

All thoughts can be let go. 

 

That doesn't change the real consequences of life right now. I hope this is made clear. 

 

Yea I can let go of thoughts, that doesn't change that I'm late on bills, have to get my car repossessed, do shitty work and also be lazy asf, still live in my moms house, etc. 

 

These are real consequences. 

 

Hell, Ramana Maharshi is a great example of this, the guy ran away from home at like 16 years old because he lost interest in everything. Because not everyone wants to put up with this shitty man made thing called society.

[Phil]

21 minutes ago, Orb said:

But when you have to make money and do a bunch of shit just to have the time to do that, that's the issue. 

This is what’s pointed to. There isn’t a separate self which does in direct experience, there are thoughts about in direct experience. Another example might be that of ‘consciousness teachers’ which suggest psychedelics are needed. Psyche’s experience are great, but will never be meditation, as in, will never bring the activity of thought, which is self referential, and discordant, to rest. It’s another example of consciousness selling consciousness to itself, at the expense of itself (suffering wise).

 

18 minutes ago, Orb said:

Some thoughts feel unbearable. 

All thoughts can be let go. 

 

That doesn't change the real consequences of life right now. I hope this is made clear. 

The aim isn’t to change consequences, consequences is a thought. 

The aim is to change thoughts, such that thoughts resonate with feeling.

If the thoughts don’t resonate, one can always let the thoughts go and ‘reach for a better feeling thought’. 

One can ‘hold’ the thoughts and insist they’re true, in spite of the discord too. 

The only reason one would hold a discordant thought, is because it’s believed to be true. 

 

If ever one does meet “life”, which is said to be at fault, hopefully one gives life a few band aids and a great big hug. 

 

18 minutes ago, Orb said:

 

Yea I can let go of thoughts, that doesn't change that I'm late on bills, have to get my car repossessed, do shitty work and also be lazy asf, still live in my moms house, etc. 

Life didn’t do that, there is no assertion.

And yes, what I’m saying is that it actually does, because you are the creator of your reality. 

 

Can is like try. I’m not suggesting what can be done or what can be tried. 

I’m suggesting letting a thought go. 

 

18 minutes ago, Orb said:

 

These are real consequences. 

 

Hell, Ramana Maharshi is a great example of this, the guy ran away from home at like 16 years old because he lost interest in everything. Because not everyone wants to put up with this shitty man made thing called society.

I really don’t know the thoughts or intentions of Ramana Maharshi. 

 

 

I hear ya, I ‘get it’, that stuff’s ‘goin on’…. But check direct experience right now… how much of that is literally happening right now in direct experience?

[Orb]

@Phil the truth is felt now regardless of withdrawal 🙏

[Phil]

[ConsciousDreamer666]

On 4/28/2023 at 12:33 AM, Blessed2 said:

People have been telling this exact same story for thousands of years. It's a prime example of ego in action.

 

The only karma there is, is in one's way of perception. Not in what one does or what goes on in the world.

Maybe it is because there was some truth to it.

[ConsciousDreamer666]

On 4/28/2023 at 12:43 AM, Jonas Long said:

This is ridiculous... it sounds like you just have a porn addiction, or habit, and you're complaining about how terrible it is, but you keep watching it.  Why?  If this is how you feel about sex, just don't participate, nobody's making you.  I could make an argument about how weird and off your rhetoric/ideology is, but I feel like your real problem here is about something else. 

Of course , let the gaslighting and projection start!

 

@Jonas Long @Blessed2 Go ahead. Engage and embrace sex as much as you want. No matter how much cooler you think you are because you think BDSM it's an art or whatever other hipster modern gimmicky fuckery narrative you guys play, it won't ever give you Bliss, Love, and Freedom.

 

Good luck actually reaching Bliss Love and True Inner Love through that compulsive understanding of sex! Let me know if it works for ya!

 

As a famous bramachari said: "meditators don't reject sex because of rejecting pleasure, they are just not interested in little petty pleasures".

 

Although, with this post I never mentioned abstinence, you are the only who mentioned. Obviously go have sex if you are horny and feel it makes sense. But the reality of it is that 99% of times sex is not done because of conscious action but because of compulsion. You guys are defending behaving like animals, since the thing that differences animals from humans is that humans can choose to do survival things like eating or having sex consciously.

 

The reality is, if you guys truly truly fucking new what is LIGHT, you would never defend any fetish or act in sex that somehow implies a difference, or a game of submission or dominance. Of course the modern fucktwards say "it's a game!!" Meanwhile this fucktwards had never met the truly Blissfulness and Ecstasy that their inner Being IS. if not they would not be playing those games and doing sex in such a way. Only because they are scared and ignorant they need to play games of "I'm better than you, or I have more power than you". That's darkness in a nutshell, ego in a nutshell. And of course, of normies like you guys I wasnt expecting much more than your closedmindnesd replies. But while you think you have everything sort it out, I probably have engaged in more fucked up twisted fetishes and sex that you guys probably imagine. So I'm not coming from a place of repression or not experience, but rather of having being in both sides.

 

But go do the fuck you want. Then don't complain that your life is compulsive and you lack connection with God.

 

But again, you probably never met truly God. Just delusions or teasers popping psychedelics. Not actually Light.

 

If you embrace devilry forget about God and Light. You'll have to get the love from eating McDonald's, buying mercedes and getting or giving spankings. Constantly playing "the game" of ups and downs, of better or worse, of superior and inferior.

 

Go ahead, have fun. Just not complain later that life feels rough. You didn't listen when important things were explained to you.

Edited May 7, 2023 by ConsciousDreamer666

[Blessed2]

19 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:

Go ahead. Engage and embrace sex as much as you want. No matter how much cooler you think you are because you think BDSM it's an art or whatever other hipster modern gimmicky fuckery narrative you guys play, it won't ever give you Bliss, Love, and Freedom.

 

This is not what I was talking about.

 

20 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:

As a famous bramachari said: "meditators don't reject sex because of rejecting pleasure, they are just not interested in little petty pleasures".

 

I somewhat agree.

 

21 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:

You guys are defending behaving like animals, since the thing that differences animals from humans is that humans can choose to do survival things like eating or having sex consciously.

 

Again this is not what I meant.

 

23 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:

you would never defend any fetish or act in sex that somehow implies a difference, or a game of submission or dominance.

 

It was not about defending anything.

 

There is no sex acts or fetishes to defend nor to reject.

 

The point was that rejection is quite literally the same as defense.

 

Like when Buddha first tried rejecting food etc, but noticed it makes no sense nor is it even possible to reject what doesn't exist. Hence the "Middle Way".

 

31 minutes ago, ConsciousDreamer666 said:

If you embrace devilry forget about God and Light. You'll have to get the love from eating McDonald's, buying mercedes and getting or giving spankings. Constantly playing "the game" of ups and downs, of better or worse, of superior and inferior.

 

I wouldn't use the concept of "game-playing". "A movie" feels closer to home. There is no doer. This is what I meant by "the only karma there is, is in one's way of perception. Not in what one does or what goes on in the world."

 

The karma isn't of sexual acts. There is no sexual acts. The karma is of thoughts about there being sex, sexual acts and meaning, purpose, value etc.

[Jonas Long]

@ConsciousDreamer666 I hereby promise to you that I will never complain to you about any pain brought on by my having a fully expressed sexual life. 

[Joseph Maynor]

On 4/28/2023 at 1:04 PM, Phil said:

@Blessed2

I’m not talking about judgement. I’m not suggesting sex is good or bad. 

I’m saying sex is a conceptualization / there is very literally no such thing as sex. 

Consequence wise, I’m not suggesting there is causation either. 

Even procreation wise, I’m not suggestion two people make a baby / new person. 

I’m definitely not suggesting any dogma such as anything said or believed by any religions. 

The very word ‘sex’ means division. 

Wait a minute.  Whaaat?

[Phil]

8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Wait a minute.  Whaaat?

Iknowright!?  The reason there is no reference, no direct experience of being born, is because you weren’t. In accordance with conditioning / intellectualism (thoughts) this is pretty much insane (another thought). Yet in accordance with actuality, or direct experience - this is true. 

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Iknowright!?  The reason there is no reference, no direct experience of being born, is because you weren’t. In accordance with conditioning with intellectualism (thoughts) this is pretty much insane (another thought). Yet in accordance with actuality, or direct experience - this is true. 

I can tell you had a huge influence on Leo Gura.  He took it in different ways though.

[Phil]

@Joseph Maynor

The you weren’t actually born factor hasn’t quite sank in yet. There’s only a Leo or a Phil if you were born. Leo wouldn’t know the truth if it was sitting on his couch next to him. This is funny, and not derogatory or disparaging, because there’s no Leo or Phil. Whole new levels of humor are being attained here. 

 

The spheres are self-perpetual. The “vacuum” science talks about. Sperms, eggs, Leos, Phils, Josephs… we’re ‘movie’ brother. 

The reality of the movie is the screen. Being two spheres. 

[Joseph Maynor]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

@Joseph Maynor

The you weren’t actually born factor hasn’t quite sank in yet. There’s only a Leo or a Phil if you were born. Leo wouldn’t know the truth if it was sitting on his couch next to him. This is funny, and not derogatory or disparaging, because there’s no Leo or Phil. 

 

The spheres are self-perpetual. The “vacuum” science talks about. 

But I don't think you think solipsism is true, although it's a damn good pointer.

[Phil]

@Joseph Maynor

Direct experience wise, thoughts aren’t true or false, true & false are thoughts.

Solipsism is a thought, same as any other ism, subject, object, noun or verb.

Same for mind, finite or infinite. 

Thought is an appearance of the lens-sphere.  

Like a magnifying glass magnifies, while there is no magnified; infinite intelligence is being the lens. 

An appearance is… an appearance. 

Pure magic. 

 

It’s all backwards my friend. There’s no gravity either. There is only overlooking appearance, and believing there is (the opposite) gravity. Appearance does not have an opposite. Opposites are appearing thoughts. Like you & me. While there is no one that recedes or introspects, there is receding & introspection… as appearance has already occurred (is this now-only). To settle at concepts (like solipsism, Catholicism, Buddism, etc) is no receding, introspection or dispelling at all. It’s ostensibly common, lackluster, standard materialist’s paradigm. Not that there’s a settler. The Settler’s Paradigm! 

 

Actual awakening, cessation, is an incredibly emotionally challenging endeavor for no one, and is not an ism, paradigm or paradox. 

 

Knower’s Paradigm was a big miss on Weird Al’s behalf, but I digress.