Rose Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I’ve been working from home for 3 years now. I was excited when working from home started, but over the years I realized it has removed all my motivation, made life kind of pointless for me at times and made me depressed at times too. I went to the office recently, and oh man… I was so happy that day it’s crazy… I don’t fit in ANY of my clothes anymore, so going to the office all the time is not an option for now, I feel gross and like a fat pig. I wonder if I will get my pre-Covid body now… Covid WFH situation has also completely ruined my sleep schedule. I would wake up 2 minutes before our morning meeting and nap at lunch... I can’t believe I’ve been living like this Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 You just have to get intentional about it. Working from home makes exercise and having a really healthy come cooked diet easy and possible. It's way easier to do that while working at home compared with going to an office all day. It's all in what you do with it, just move in the direction of what you want little by little. Set an alarm for tomorrow. Do this if you want, her videos are the most fun I've found on YouTube. Buy some fresh fruits and veggies. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 When the self referential beliefs are seen, the issues of weight, sleep, work location, nihilism, motivation & depression all actually resolve without any doing whatsoever on your part. Happiness most prior and makes all the difference. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConsciousDreamer666 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 4/9/2023 at 10:06 PM, Rose said: I’ve been working from home for 3 years now. I was excited when working from home started, but over the years I realized it has removed all my motivation, made life kind of pointless for me at times and made me depressed at times too. I went to the office recently, and oh man… I was so happy that day it’s crazy… I don’t fit in ANY of my clothes anymore, so going to the office all the time is not an option for now, I feel gross and like a fat pig. I wonder if I will get my pre-Covid body now… Covid WFH situation has also completely ruined my sleep schedule. I would wake up 2 minutes before our morning meeting and nap at lunch... I can’t believe I’ve been living like this At least you have morning meetings lol.... I sometimes wake up 2-3 hours after the normal time of working and just put up the hours over the night that same day. Wondering how much more crazy can it get Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 (edited) On 4/10/2023 at 6:47 PM, ConsciousDreamer666 said: At least you have morning meetings lol.... I sometimes wake up 2-3 hours after the normal time of working and just put up the hours over the night that same day. Wondering how much more crazy can it get I wish I didn’t have them though, at least that way I would get decent amount of sleep, given how messed up my sleep is these days. Edited April 16 by Rose Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 @Rose That there isn’t an actual experience of sleep, and there seems to be an issue with sleep, is a really great ‘clue’. ‘Clue’ like the white rabbit in The Matrix. Not meant in any comparative manor, only as a testimony to the worthwhileness of alignment as it relates practically in life; I’ve studied 12 hrs per day for 7 days, in addition to work, family, etc, sleeping 4-6 hours per night. Feeling great. Eating clean. Loving life. The point is it’s possible, not that I’m doing it. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Phil said: @Rose That there isn’t an actual experience of sleep, and there seems to be ann issue with sleep, is a really great ‘clue’. ‘Clue’ like the white rabbit in The Matrix. Not meant in any comparative manor, only as a testimony to the worthwhileness of alignment as it relates practically in life; I’ve studied 12 hrs per day for 7 days, in addition to work, family, etc, sleeping 4-6 hours per night. Feeling great. Eating clean. Loving life. The point is it’s possible, not that I’m doing it. I dont think i would ever be possible to do what you did and sleep only 4-6 hours. Seems i need atleast 7-8 hours to function properly. Especially doing some creative. My connection to source seems to get Cut off if i am too tired. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 (edited) 17 hours ago, Phil said: I’ve studied 12 hrs per day for 7 days, in addition to work What were you studying? And I never watched the Matrix, but it seems to be mentioned a lot in my life recently Edited April 18 by Rose Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 @Rose Financial stuff. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On 4/17/2023 at 11:30 AM, WhiteOwl said: I dont think i would ever be possible to do what you did and sleep only 4-6 hours. Seems i need atleast 7-8 hours to function properly. Especially doing some creative. My connection to source seems to get Cut off if i am too tired. I suspect it has a lot to do with how ‘sleep’ is ‘held’ belief wise (if it is at all). In terminology of an energy paradigm, energy might be expended on discord (beliefs associated with “I sleep”). A contemplative question might be what is the difference between source, sleep, and me. If all are actually one and the same, there might be less energy spent on discord. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 15 hours ago, Phil said: I suspect it has a lot to do with how ‘sleep’ is ‘held’ belief wise (if it is at all). In terminology of an energy paradigm, energy might be expended on discord (beliefs associated with “I sleep”). A contemplative question might be what is the difference between source, sleep, and me. If all are actually one and the same, there might be less energy spent on discord. You could name any 3 things instead of source, sleep and me. But right, there is no difference. Non-duality boom.. Sounds like just let go of everything. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 @WhiteOwl I guess but it doesn’t seem like it’d be relevant in the energy sense. I’m not sure letting go applies. It seems more that some beliefs, like sleep & energy, require questioning & inspecting. Thoughts, beliefs & assumptions in comparison to the actuality of direct experience. Maybe not though, there’s really no way to know. Ultimately so to speak, maybe connection vs appearance of. @Rose Knock, knock, Rose. 🤍 Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rose Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 (edited) @Phil I think that the difference there is that you had a family and it motivated you, it was your support system. For people who don’t have that, it makes sense why the working from home isolation makes them demotivated. I think my motivation will come back once I start going to the office more. I think working from home is definitely, probably around 85% at fault for all my life’s misfortunes right now Edited April 20 by Rose Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 @Rose Another considerable perspective is that blame is an emotion. The difference would be that blame, as an emotion, isn’t a duality. That blame is felt, and is therefore is nonconceptual. In this consideration, blame is not the result of anyone or anything. Blame is how the thought that there is someone or something at fault, feels. The discord felt, but overlooked, would be the overlooking of, the discord. The overlooking of why the thought that someone or something is at fault feels, discordant. Same aspect put another way… the opposite of discord felt would be alignment felt, and in the inspecting of the thought & why it feels discordant, the belief, or, conceptualization is dispelled, and alignment is felt. The alignment felt, is with ‘energy’. But ‘energy’, is another thought. Another conceptualization. The actuality of ‘energy’ is… feeling. So in aligning thought with feeling, there is more ‘energy’. Which in actuality is, there is more feeling. But ‘more feeling’ as a thought, feels a pinch off too. Because it’s yet another conceptualization of feeling, which is rightfully felt as slightly discordant. The underlying discord would be the implication that ‘before there was less feeling and now there is more feeling’. This implies a lack of feeling is possible or was experienced. And that concept is discordant. Why? It’s yet another conceptualization of… feeling. In truth there never was, and never is, a lack of feeling. And feeling, ‘tells you so’, via the discord & alignment felt. What there is, is an experience of believing concepts, about feeling, and how that feels, to feeling. If I were to blame someone or something, surely worry is around the corner. Blame, as not-emotion, as a dualistic concept, means I was asserted upon. If I believe I was asserted upon, and didn’t inspect that belief, then there is worry that I could or will be asserted upon again. If I was asserted upon and therefore could be asserted upon again, surely doubt will be felt. When what’s wanted comes to mind, there will be doubt that wanted can be… because I could be asserted upon again. As there is doubt, sure there will be disappointment. One interpretation of disappointment is that it is with, who or what I was asserted upon, by. That which ‘I worry about’, that which is ‘the cause of my worry, doubt, and disappointment’. But as emotion, as felt (and not conceptual)… blame, worry, doubt & disappointment are guidance. It’s how the thoughts - feel. Overlooking that, the guidance of emotion… surely overwhelment is just around the corner. Discord, and momentum of, leads to, overwhelment. Overwhelmed yet again… frustration is felt, irritation is felt, and impatience is felt. The discord is visceral, bodily. Then thoughts arise about how things are hard, aren’t working out, won’t work out, etc. How other people are fortunate but I am not. How other people have support but I don’t. How isolation is the reason for how I feel, and they aren’t. Etc. These thoughts are concepts based on separate selves, and can be believed. But, if the thoughts / concepts aren’t believed, and the emotion is listened to, pessimism is allowed. (To be ‘seen’, recognized). The recognition of pessimism is the recognition that how pessimism (pessimistic thoughts) feel is discordant to - feeling. Put another way, when the thought ‘says’ pessimism… feeling ‘says’ ‘sorry, not in my nature, can’t go there’. That is discord / the experience of discord. But, the whole charade of conceptualizing can be let go. Likely, the challenge would then be - distraction. Anything other than feeling boredom. A screen, a person, a concept, food, a substance, sex, a belief in lack or shortage - anything but actually feeling the emotion - boredom. Right about here the ‘separate self’ of thought is the critical difference. For the separate self of thought must do, find or get something - to feel better. Inherent in the ‘separate self’ being ‘separate’ - the ‘separate self’ is separate, finite, limited, isolated, not enough. But those are all concepts too. The ‘separate self’, is only conceptual. An idea. Thoughts, believed. Without the believing of those thoughts there isn’t the activity of… the happening of… those thoughts… and so there naturally is contentment. With now, as it is. With me, as is. Without the belief(s) / ‘separate self’… there is no ‘separate self’ which now is not good enough for, or which is not good enough for now. No one for whom now must change or be different or improved - so ‘someone’ can feel better. No ‘separate self’ means no separation. This means no family, no support, no motive, no motivation - for - a ‘separate self’ - which is already - only thoughts. Discordant, ‘energy’ blocking - and felt - thoughts. This means no filter upon feeling. Like a river without a damn that only seemed to be there, there’s just no one to give a damn. If feeling contentment is a matter of letting thoughts / beliefs / concepts fizzle out… well shit Rose… that’s always possible. That’s not something someone could do. That’s not a doing or a getting at all. It’s an allowing of what already is. Motive would for someone & for some thing… and motivation would therein be away from feeling, away from the guidance of emotion. What ‘happens’ when one doesn’t, via the believing of thoughts, ‘move’ away from feeling? What does non-aversion really amount to? Inspiration. Separate self & motivation are then clearly ‘seen’ naked, as ‘they’ are. Conceptual. Thoughts. Narrative. Conditioning. Discordant beliefs. Hopefulness naturally arises, as that is simply the nature of Self. Not the concept hope, the felt emotion; hopefulness. Because if feeling great is a letting go of discord, and not an efforting, a doing or a getting, nor an attaining or obtaining or achievement… then feeling is always readily available. And, there in no one or no thing which could rightfully be said to be the reason one can’t let a discordant thought or thoughts - go. Were there to seem to be a reason - that reason - would be - just another thought. A discordant thought. Felt. Well, if feeling great is always a matter of letting a discordant thought go, and never a matter of ‘getting’… this letting go can be ‘done’ anytime. In that recognition of truth, doubt is gone. Worry is gone. Disappointment is gone. And therein, overwhelment is gone. Frustration, irritation & impatience are gone. Pessimism is gone. Boredom is gone. Why? It was how the thoughts felt, and the thoughts aren’t entertained, believed, focused upon. Could these emotions ‘come back’, arise again? Hells yes - the guidance is ever-present, always present, is presence. Is this a problem? Hells no. The guidance is to - what’s wanted. What’s wanted surely is.. wanted… yes? Thank God for the guidance, yes? All day long. Having emptied of the discord… now positive expectations and optimistic thoughts naturally arise - and feel great. Alignment. Eagerness & enthusiasm are naturally felt, as the alignment is allowed. Why? Goodness. The nature of our being. It’s normal. Natural. What is already actual. Thoughts attract in kind. That is, aligned thoughts attract, aligned thoughts. As aligned thoughts congeal… backed by the clarity appearing as the thoughts… passion is felt. Passion which is like the sun - always present, sometimes seemingly blocked by clouds. Always a matter of perspective. The sun (feeling) doesn’t go away when clouds (thoughts) obscure it. It can only seem so. Well, that’s inherently joy. That’s freedom. That’s empowerment. That’s magic. That’s the showing up, the unfolding of, wanted. Alignment creates. That’s conscious creating. No catch. Feels Great. 4 hours ago, Rose said: @Phil I think that the difference there is that you had a family and it motivated you, it was your support system. One could also believe one is motivating & supporting a family, and that the studying is a burden in addition. 4 hours ago, Rose said: For people who don’t have that, it makes sense why the working from home isolation makes them demotivated. One could believe one is a separate self, which has or doesn’t have things, like people, motive, motivation, support. One could believe that one is separate, and dual; motivated and or demotivated. One could ride that emotional rollercoaster. 4 hours ago, Rose said: I think my motivation will come back once I start going to the office more. I think working from home is definitely, probably around 85% at fault for all my life’s misfortunes right now One can believe feeling is not present now, but is in a future. That one experiences misfortune. That there is someone or something at fault and to blame. But one is already receiving the guidance. Already experiencing emotions. One can even believe there is me, and ‘sleep’, never actually having experienced it. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConsciousDreamer666 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) On 4/17/2023 at 5:30 PM, WhiteOwl said: I dont think i would ever be possible to do what you did and sleep only 4-6 hours. Seems i need atleast 7-8 hours to function properly. Especially doing some creative. My connection to source seems to get Cut off if i am too tired. I am with Phil in this. Society has said that 8 hours is recommended because most of society lives under constant stress and tension in the system. When the body is in this state all the time of course it will have to be at least 1/3 of his life just resting. If you function frictionless, or almost frictionless, (in other words, there is no 'mental diarrhea' going on through your day) you will not need more than 3-4 hours. Edited April 26 by ConsciousDreamer666 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Elf Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 I also work from home and can relate. It takes a lot more effort to have a decent social life. But I see it as a blessing in a lot of ways as well because it's allowed me more time to myself to figure stuff out and such. Plus I don't have a boss breathing down my neck which is a big up side. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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