Jonas Long
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Just now, Kevin said:
Aren’t you gay? Why are you being homophobic
No, and I'm not. I meant homosapien.
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
@Jonas Long Well channel Bob Ross and make some happy f-ing trees.
It's as easy as that.
That's what mom said I was. 🤔
I don't want to?
Where are you going with this? Let's try directness.
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Just now, Mandy said:
FOR ME, FOR ME, FOR ME, FOR ME
I'm saying that because I'm not assuming that's how everyone paints.
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4 minutes ago, A Tim said:
Honest, unskilled work doing similar work to landscaping.
Try doing your job after a week of barely eating, sleeping outside, living with whatever conditions they've been living with.
And keep in mind you are a target demographic for serial killers and sexual assaulters, with vans often. Ever seen American psycho?
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Just now, Phil said:
Like…?
Health care, including mental health, rehab for addicts, support networks of some kind.
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1 minute ago, Kevin said:
I’m not gay right now😞
At least you're a homo.
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5 minutes ago, A Tim said:
If you want to make a homeless person unhappy, try giving them a job.
We're having a hard time hiring, so whenever I see someone panhandling while driving in my company truck - I give them water and offer for them to come earn some money. I've never had one person accept it. They usually laugh at the prospect. They aren't interested in earning it. They want it given.
yeah, well, again, mental illness. Or assuming you are luring them into your van to rape and kill them, which is actually a reasonable assumption on their part seeing as how exactly that happens quite regularly.
What kind of work are you offering them?
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Obviously homelessness isn't the defining characteristic of anyone any more than race is. I guess the term and the "othering" of it is intrinsic to the problem.
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2 minutes ago, Mandy said:
An exploration then? Does the canvas start out blank? Or with issues to fix?
The first few layers are creating issues to fix, for me.
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2 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
If you want to make a drug addict happy, give them some money to buy drugs. 😁
And if you want to make a capitalist happy, give them a job.
(Obv there's no drug addicts or capitalists)
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
If you're working on a painting or a song, are you dealing with issues?
I don't know. Symbolically yes, or it feels like it. Ideas of issues.
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5 minutes ago, Phil said:
No, there'd still be more issues to deal with for sure.
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Let's just borrow a small fraction of the funding we give to weapons and military and invest it in affordable housing and ubi. Done. then we can say living without shelter is a choice.
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10 minutes ago, Reborn2 said:
I agree it feels good, if only there was a way to ensure they won't buy any bullshit with those 50 bucks, but stuff that's actually good for them. It would then feel much better
Here's an argument for the other side of the coin; by being more selfish and making more money for yourself and keeping that money and property for yourself, you have a lot more to give to other people, you also have a lot more money that a potentially fictional, well functioning and ethically/morally consistent goverment could tax, and such fictional goverment would be a lot more capable than you are in dealing with homelesness. Effective resource allocation. Therefore, maybe those 50 bucks would be better spent by such goverment than giving it to Bob who's gonna spend it on bunch of beers and a pack of smokes to cope with his life
Who gives a shit what they spend it on. If its a gift that come with conditions it's not a gift.
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5 minutes ago, Phil said:
Why do people fall under their sway? I agree btw.
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You don't see systemic power in the same way you don't see wind. You see and feel the effect of both.
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2 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Can't or don't want to?
I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of homeless people being too desperate to be sexy enough to sleep with or give 50$ to right now.
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4 minutes ago, Phil said:
Isn’t assertion the interpretation added, and therein it’s a matter of without that interpretation, or, the absence of (uncomfortable) discordant interpretation…?
Willing to note what emotion ‘don’t feel comfortable is’…?
In either case, see what I’m sayin?
The emotion of "don't feel comfortable" is discomfort, I thought that was obvious. Anyway, I'm sure whatever you're saying is right, I just can't follow it right now.
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Why does everyone think I'm gay.
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3 minutes ago, Mandy said:
What if in our belief in powerlessness and people who are in that situation, we don't actually interact with them in any way of assisting them, but simply have decided that we are in support of them.
Wouldn't you be even less inclined to help if your assumption was everything is in their own power so you don't need to do anything?
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2 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@Jonas Long Yeah, I see your point, but what if it's not either/or? What if you're so powerful that in giving power in thought to someone else, you actually make it seem as if they have your power?
It's written by Viktor Frankl, a Nazi concentration camp survivor.
I don't think it's either/or, but I don't know how to parse it really...there's systemic "power" and personal power, and it gets too tricky for me to say it's all in someone's personal power to overcome their systemic oppression. I haven't read that book to be fair.
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12 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Is it? You're basically saying that the entire premise of Man's Search for Meaning is disempowering instead of empowering.
It seems/feels more empowering maybe to say "I'm choosing to live this way" rather than "I'm a victim of whatever circumstances", especially if mental illness and drug addiction are factoring in. But if it were truly 100% a choice, I doubt anyone would live without shelter, reliable running water, etc. It also enables us to not prioritize providing better options.
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I can see how from the outside one might assume people who live in the "most powerful and developed/sophisticated nation" in the world would only resort to homelessness out of choice, but that's just how sick we are and how misplaced our priorities. In reality, we could end homelessness, pretty easily too. I've spent periods of time without a house or apartment, sleeping in a tent for months, and it SUCKS. Also maybe worth noting, the drug addiction epidemic and the issue of mental illness are more or less one in the same, at least insofar as they relate to people ending up living without shelter. And as far as what they may say on documentaries or think piece articles, yeah, it's in our nature in part to sometimes claim our situation is strictly by choice and we are not victims of circumstances or society. It's pretty disempowering to admit that.
Homeless people
in Emptying
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That trope appears in fiction because it happens in life "lol". Unhoused people and sex workers are common targets because their misfortunes are not investigated well.