Jonas Long
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
To say anything else to weight money much higher than a loving upbringing.
Pretty sure there's a typo here, though I couldn't say what it is exactly.
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4 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@Jonas Long Continuing to rehash that narrative is what creates the opportunity. There is no bottom rung of society.
The so-called bottom rung...because it worked out for him, until it didn't. I don't think the "point" I was making is very hard to understand.
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
I thought you missed a not in there, but I see you were going for full drama level.
Afraid to not get Dahmered?
Are there not mistakes for you?
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11 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Are there mistakes? That's not what you meant to type is it?
Who is tricking who?
What did you mean to read? Something you were already thinking?
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3 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Are there mistakes? That's not what you meant to type is it?
Who is tricking who?
What do you mean? Yes its what I meant to type...as in Jeffrey Dahmner-ed. He killed the bottom rung of society because they wouldn't get investigated. Just an example.
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I know lenses, I have the best lense.
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9 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Maybe time to examine the lens you see everything through.
Honestly the only point was, me, or whoever, not getting into your truck isn't evidence to support your thesis of my reasons not to, or for doing whatever I'm doing.
Maybe you're afraid to get Dahmered, maybe you just have no reason to think you will be paid or treated fairly, not exploited etc.
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Bills is just bliss misspelled
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The so called "personal power" is the will to question itself to create this thread. Everything we can speak of is ultimately euphemistic.
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I was getting Dahmer vibes so I said "van" instead of truck.
"😂"
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18 hours ago, A Tim said:
If you want to make a homeless person unhappy, try giving them a job.
We're having a hard time hiring, so whenever I see someone panhandling while driving in my company truck - I give them water and offer for them to come earn some money. I've never had one person accept it. They usually laugh at the prospect. They aren't interested in earning it. They want it given.
Sorry, truck, omg my bad.
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1 hour ago, A Tim said:
You're really hung up on this imaginary van. I drive a moped and carry a spare helmet.
Maybe that's the actual problem. hmmmm
Weren't you just blazing on, implying people don't question their assumptions? Are there any assumptions here you're overlooking as it relates to any of this? Aside from assuming I'm smug and drive a van. I've dispelled one rumor; the other may be true, for all I know.
You mentioned being in your company van when you make this offer to people.
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2 hours ago, A Tim said:
"There's always an excuse when you need one.
There's always an excuse when you need oooone...
ooooooone. Alwaaaaaaays."
Regardless, I'm offering them some kind of income for some kind of effort. A hand extended... and they appear to prefer to return to/continue "barely eating, sleeping outside, living with whatever conditions they've been living with."
@Mandy I was referring to this attitude, but whatever
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15 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Work is intended to be your highest excitement, joy, meditative, peace.
Yeah, a far cry from hoping into some smug rando's van, which is really for THEM and not you.
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5 minutes ago, Mandy said:
What if the blame doesn't amount to anything at all but emotion, feeling now, for no one.
What if the feeling isn't saying anyone or anything IS inherently bad, but that the focus on it now, the resistance, is the chariot heading towards the mud. Those squirrelly chariot wheels. AM I RIGHT? No, I'm not.
I thought that's what I was saying... the wheels aren't even turning on the chariot, they're inbedded in the earth, the planet itself is all that's moving it.
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7 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@Jonas Long You're talking specifically to that example, but the specifics are hypothetical and stories such as the feeding and entertaining the baby's portrait, not the baby. The only specifics are the actual baby.
You smokescreen, distract and cheat feeling better or letting go the blame by calling someone else the cheat. This is FOR YOU.
I was speaking to that example because I thought that's what we were talking about...you quoted me talking about that example specifically.
I'm not laying the blame anywhere, I'm saying their guilt is misplaced in the first place, and their "offer" and resulting extrapolation is exactly like you say, the smokescreen, distraction and passing of the blame FOR THEM, and not for the person the "offer" is being made to. I'm not accusing anyone of being responsible in the first place.
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Randomly offering someone a days work and them not taking it doesn't amount to a license for you to assume their reasons for that. Same with someone's life conditions in the first place. You have no idea, you don't know the first thing about them, how they got there or what they want. Those assumptions are masking a general feeling of guilt.
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6 minutes ago, Mandy said:
No one is driving that van.
I know that's why I said it's not even the charioteers agenda.
7 minutes ago, Mandy said:How so?
In this case the "offer" is clearly a symbolic gesture to allay one's feeling of guilt. The guilt is misplaced in the first place of course, but it's not an offer that is actually based on empathy, it's to keep telling oneself the same story of "they want free shit, they don't actually want to work like I do, they're where they are for a reason etc. "
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6 minutes ago, Mandy said:
The charioteer is not a charity, he has his own agenda, which isn't his either. I'm not hoping onto Arjunas chariot either. The offer isn't really an offer, it's a bid to go on not questioning one's assumptions.
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2 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Satisfied with that?
Enough so that I'm not getting into a strangers van, especially one with a clearly shitty and superior attitude to me.
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18 minutes ago, A Tim said:
"There's always an excuse when you need one.
There's always an excuse when you need oooone...
ooooooone. Alwaaaaaaays."
Regardless, I'm offering them some kind of income for some kind of effort. A hand extended... and they appear to prefer to return to/continue "barely eating, sleeping outside, living with whatever conditions they've been living with."
I'm just saying, there's no fucking way I'm getting in your van, I don't care how desperate I am. I don't know what your agenda is, I'll take what I already have and know, even if it sucks.
Homeless people
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Oh, like MLK criticizing the kkk?