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6 minutes ago, Phil said:
Obviously you’re saying that based on difficulties falling asleep and or staying asleep, but the phrasing is an internalization so it makes me wonder if there’s something to it. Anything come to mind maybe from childhood like something that happened while you were sleeping or something that happened which woke you suddenly in a startling way?
Yeah, night terrors as a kid.
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2 minutes ago, Mandy said:
Then there's also the emotion, thought, resistance piece of tiredness.
That's more what I'm asking about here, how to deal with that. After it's already too late, the day is happening and I have to do it tired anyway.
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I'm a really bad sleeper, I've tried all kinds of things for it, but nothing seems to make a huge difference. Aside from somehow fixing this problem, how can you deal with just the feeling of being tired a lot of the time?
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Fame is a relatively new concept in human history, and fame as it is today is completely unprecedented, and also probably won't be a thing forever, and we'll probably all be a lot better off when it isn't. It's basically a collective mental illness. Warhols prediction about 15 minutes of fame for everyone is basically coming true, and once it does it will make the concept irrelevant.
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This world is full of corpses. I have a weird amount of cremated ashes in this house.
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If you can't find meaning in every life, you won't find meaning in any life.
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8 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:
wdym was his teaching about how to do your job or something personal?
It's never personal.
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10 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:
he is one of those fucking clowns who like to show off typical asshole
Kind of yeah, but it wasn't personal lol just business.
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I was trying to think of the easiest way into the "discovery" via a simple and understandable, sort of undeniable statement. The most effective meme.
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2 minutes ago, Serenity said:
It's more of an observer looking at itself in the mirror while being the mirror too. 🤔
Strange-loopy.
A hall of mirrors really. Mirrors all the way down.
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So put another way,
Anything that can be observed can't be the observer.
As an invitation to investigate where the "real observer" is, to eventually conclude there cant actually be one.
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1 minute ago, Mandy said:
@Jonas Long How'd that work out for you?
Fine I guess, we got free shit for a while and never got caught. This was, like 20 years ago
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@Mandy so it's always business, never personal. I used to have a scam with my friend to take advantage of that Walmart policy lol
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8 minutes ago, Orb said:
Ime, there is no observer. The sense of there being an observer is actually a subtle thought repeated in the background until inspected.
Initially, there's matter and awareness.
Then there's awareness and what awareness appears as.
All the remains is Awareness.
Awareness isn't actually aware, as it is appearing so efficiently that there's no "gap" where something can be aware of another thing.
Can all that be extrapolated from the original statement though?
If the observer can't observe itself, what is "it"? Taken from the base assumption maybe that you are the person/body/mind that is observed, how can it be being observed if you are it?
And if that's not what you are, what can you be? Just an observation with no observer, a subject with no object etc.
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The actual observer cannot observe itself.
This is most efficient distillation I can think of. Does this effectively sum it up?
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My cat is really trying to get me to take him seriously, but all he can say is "meow", and it's impossible to take "meow" seriously, regardless of whatever inflection he can manage to say it in. Kind of like an ego yowling "me, me....ow"
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18 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
Santa doesn't believe in Santa.
I belong to the church of Santa.
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Why does the saying "its not personal, its just business" exist in a way that we all recognize it? As if any and all deception doesn't apply or shouldn't "hurt" when its done in the name of business, but as soon as it isn't, a line is crossed. As if business dealings weren't between "people" ultimately. Like "business" is some invulnerable entity to itself which doesn't touch the lives of the people whom the business consists of. It's very weird to me, but seems like it's a given among people. Like the boss of my last job took me aside on my 35th birthday to teach me how to do online investing (as if he paid me sufficiently to have anything left over to invest) and explain explained how you could choose "ethical" investments only, ie not investing in things like tobacco, or anything that goes against your personal values. He told me he completely ignored that part though lol, but still considered himself a liberal and a "good person". Idk. I don't lock shit personally, not my house or my car, and I've never had anything stolen. I'm not sure if what I said adds up or is coherent, I'm pretty tired rn.
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30 years
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7 minutes ago, fopylo said:
I don't know how to do that shit I'm 38🥺
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You walk up to the guy and grab his crotch, then say "oh sorry I thought you were my dad"
Awkwardness and assault.
(Don't do this)
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2 minutes ago, Isagi Yoichi said:
I dont care about what i think about jesus but i got the similar shit same responses its like they feed it to them while they're babies
I think he was being facetious.
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Just now, Isagi Yoichi said:
Here its the fucking dogmatic christian narrative.
Why yes lol
What makes you think it's not that? Or just an updated allegory of the same drama since gildamesh or whoever?
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21 minutes ago, A Tim said:
I dunno. It appears to be uncomfortable just because it is. It doesn't feel like it jives with what is somehow, so it uncomfortable.
Then the only "problem" I guess is the thought that it doesn't jive, because everything's jiving with what is anyway, it can't not. I'm not sure, but maybe just the thought that it's off is what's uncomfortable.
How to deal with tiredness
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