Robed Mystic

Ok but you called me out so yes it is an attack albeit indirectly. Or maybe I am valid and you want to look the other way. I do not convince anyone of anything. I may have something powerful to say, yes. But I advocate no cult nor will I ever. I only speak Truth. Truth will always be demonized. It will be demonized until the end of time.

Then describe it. It's very simple.

Lol. So much for being open minded.

That's your viewpoint. I also remember you saying you thought Leo got his stuff from me. Remember? I don't forget. It was an attack. Don't be so paranoid of the word. It doesn't bite. I did not pose as a teacher that is your projection.

Describe to me the self reference problem.

Ok.. but be confident. Don't attack me and then retreat by saying you will leave me alone. Have the balls to wait for my rebuttal and then respond.

Uh huh 😏

It's quickly becoming the opposite, sadly. I showed you that you are throwing out obvious good because there was more bad in the pit, and you deflected. But I'm the immature one? If you wanna get down in the weeds again I'll be glad to..but it really doesn't seem that way, lol.

Where do you get "fan"? Please explain?

You are generalizing here.. what message exactly? What's toxic? Please be specific if you are going to make accusations against Actualized. In other words ask specific questions like @Lester Retselis. More speculation and assumptions backed with no facts. If you want to play the rationalist please provide proof. You can't because it's all in your head lol.

I'm 20 years his senior lol. Trust me on this....I didn't get anything from him.

Haha. When pushed - they deflect. As shown above. Bias is easily exposed. I mean - it's human nature.

It seems your style is deflection. Not impressed 😕

Absolutely speaking, no. But we don't live life in the Absolute. We live our life here, where there are dualities- or differences. And here you played the Absolute card.

I like his style of teaching because it aligns with my own- I just have never put it on you tube. But I could write a book, if I so desired. I could do everything he and other teachers did regarding awakening, if I so desired. But I don't. Lol. Anyway to say his outweigh anything good is to throw the good out with the bad. You do recognize that, right? You will do that with every single teacher to varying degrees- because of finitude. So you drawing a line as to what degree is totally relative and totally bias.

You are welcome to your viewpoint. I am not trying to come off like your superior or your teacher so please do not misunderstand me here. I am probably the humblest person you could meet- I am simply passionate about Truth and sometimes it comes off as arrogance. As for the videos- i shall beg to differ here - some concept is necessary for building a framework. The spiritual practices then take you beyond the framework. But a framework must first be there to go beyond.

Well - perhaps you are right. Perhaps the earlier teachings have been tainted by selfleshness. I don't know. But Isn't that bias or selfishness itself to ignore a good message because there was some bad mixed in? I do know there is good stuff there. I could even cherry pick the episodes that I think would help. What happens is people get attached to the teacher and not the teachings- which again- are not new. This is what happened to @AdeptusPsychonautica and its what's happening to you. You both got attached to the teacher, only in a negative way not a positive. You latched onto the messenger and not the message. Thus potentially missing the message. I tried to explain this to @AdeptusPsychonautica years ago but it fell on deaf ears. So be it. There are other great teachers. Peter Ralston is among them. Rupert Spira is good, but also, up to a point. His teachings break down as well at a certain point. All "teachers" are finite. You must ultimately transcend all teachings into Absolute Truth. But you cannot do that without keeping your mind open and free of bias.

Do you throw out the baby with the bath water? No. Should you take the time to separate the wheat from the chaff? You don't have to. We don't tell you to adopt anything as a belief. Only what is true for you in your direct experience is what is true So yes - I would still highly recommend Iistening to all of the spiritual and metaphysical episodes...but to also do spiritual practices along the way to discover what is true for yourself. Things like meditation, self-inquiry, etc. I have never taken psychedelics so I will not advocate them.

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Honestly I have doubts now as to whether he is even enlightened at all.

You are lost in conflating the Absolute from the relative.

In my opinion all of the metaphysical episodes, with the exception of Infinity of Gods, are great. An Infinity of Gods is his own ego mind fighting against the reality of being alone as God. The alien stuff he hasn't made any episodes on. He has stated on the forum that he is taking a break to integrate and get back to his senses.

I addressed the alien stuff earlier. Leo's mind has gone to shit from over use of psychedelics...from chasing actual enlightenment which, counterintuitively, is not found by chasing. It is stumbled upon. The act of chasing is egoic. God will not answer the call of the self. He needs to rest and get better and I wish him the best. You should too.

They only become One when the ego dies. It collapses into God. So no,, personal development must remain separate and awakening and ego development must remain a duality while the ego exists.

Again, I'm talking about the metaphysical stuff. Truth was found thousands of years ago. It is nothing new.