Robed Mystic

It's OK. Sometimes the schoolyard bullies need to be brought down a notch.

Nice try. But here you fall flat on your face. This was an easy one. Knight captures queen. Someone struggling with psychosis from over use of psychedelics has nothing to do with the actual content or the teachings. The fact that your feeble mind has put the two together is mind boggling. Once again - I implore you to open your mind and listen to the metaphysical episodes. Here, you will understand that rational thinking must be used and transcended. Here we go again. The only thing you could pull out your arse is one thread or exchange I had months ago with a user who ended up, as I predicted, going nuts on the forum and being banned for instability anyway. So my feelings about him were warranted, I just went about it wrong and later admitted that. Has Mr. Supreme ever made a mistake in his life or is he just too intelligent? Does he then judge himself by those mistakes or does he allow himself the ability to evolve and grow? You are making yourself sound even more limited with the stuff you are jabbering on about now. It is actually getting embarrassing. Ok..well good. I just saw a recent title on one of your videos called something to the effect of the Rational Psychonaut. Cool. Ok..so you don't label yourself or put yourself in a box. That's splendid. But apparently you do that with me...is that not a double standard? Dude...this is rapidly going downhill for you. When I actually attempt to expend any mental energy on having a conversation with you, it gets really messy for you very quickly. I suggest you go back to the drawing board before you attempt to hold a dialogue with me. Try drinking some of your own Kool aid. Of course, we can also just play a good old fashioned game of chess - if you think you can handle it.

Don't even start 😀

Understood 🙂

We know 🙂

It's fine - allow him to unload. It seems that belittling someone (which he made it clear that it was JUST ME) empowers him in some weird way. Perhaps it helps him sleep better at night- knowing he got the best of someone on an online forum.

Perhaps you are correct about the WinterKnight situation. Maybe it was self deception on Leo's part. It seemed he was targeted ...for example- there are many so called neo-advaita folks on the forum which do not cause a trigger. And yet WinterKnight did present a "problem" because Leo was going through a "Love"awakening at the time. Lets take the realization of "No self"... to me - it is the pillar of enlightenment - and yet it is downplayed on the Actualized forum. So, yes - there are definitely things that could have been done differently - especially between him and you...Leo's impulsive behavior means anyone at any time could feel his "wrath" myself included- just for having a difference in opinion...and this is extremely egotistical. But it all worked out in the end - just look at the community you have created here...it's great- and it's growing 🙂

You give the Actualized forum far too much credit. It's really a place to simply talk about spirituality - just like here. The mods, including myself, are constantly reinforcing what is said in the episodes - which is to NOT take anything on as an ideology. We are always reiterating the importance of being skeptical yet staying open minded - and doing the spiritual practices to discover what is true for you. So no - the online forum is NOT in any danger of leading to any of the sort of things you have listed here. And, by the way, we are going completely off topic in terms of Actualized corroding rationality. Please screen shot a post where this has occurred- and I will gladly rectify it myself. And please don't go back to abstract claims such as "oh, it's the mindset there." You deem yourself a rationalist, so please provide me with some solid facts. Ironically, for one who has claimed himself a rationalist - you sure delve in abstraction. As for your second point- yes I do concurr that the owner of the forum does people a disservice by pushing fast track enlightenment- not spirituality- via psychedelics. In other words - if you do 200 trips you will awaken. It just doesn't work that way. And I've talked about this in the past. The mental masturbation on the forum- well that is what it is - but the content stands on its own. If he shut down the forum today it would be no skin off my back - but I do agree that he should not be so compulsive on the forum after tripping - and I have also mentioned this to him as well. It seems he has been taking that advice based on one of his recent posts. As for the personal attacks which you once again couldn't hold yourself back from - well I guess the most important part of your sentence was "I think". Thanks for the advice - I'll take it into consideration. Sometimes I do rush my responses on the forums and I can do a better job of that. As for the Ashram, I don't really need to do that. In fact, one will make much more spiritual progress by sitting alone and or being alone. Group settings will hold you back in my opinion.

I'm going to ignore all the little, petty, personal attacks- as I did in the last reply. Because honestly I know that is your MO. You attempt to belittle someone in an effort to make them feel "inferior" to your supreme intelligence. Adeptus, the Supreme One!! He's just so much smarter than everyone else! Well - congrats bud - all you do is expose once again, how inflated your ego is...in fact - it's even worse now than it was 6 months ago! Thanks for pointing out that hot air balloons are more inflated than helium - I appreciate it! Actually I think your arrogance has gone way beyond any type of balloon at this point. You actually make Leo Gura appear humble- and frankly, that's hard to do. You should be real proud of that! But let me give you another little tip (I shouldn't keep throwing you bones, but it's just the kinda guy I am) arrogance and selfishness only get you farther away from awakening, not closer. Just look at Leo, your favorite person! You two have a lot more in common than you deemed! The rational psychonaut and the just - whatever psychonaut- both of you play in the same sandbox - you've just never said hi or became pals! Is it OK to get to the actual points now? Ok..let's do that. I pointed you to the content and the actual teachings because this mindset thing is something you have conjured up in your head. Go actually watch the episodes!! When you talk of community you act like it's some type of Ashram or physical site where we all live. It's a freaking forum dude!!! It is just a bunch of folks mentally masturbating. The fact that you have totally overlooked the content for an internet chat and believe it's some type of magical community is amazing to me!! But again - it's you. So I guess it shouldn't be. So, let's recap. It's not a cult or even a community. It's an online forum. It's you that is making it into that!! The teachings or content are what matter and honestly- they are sound. But you probably wouldn't know. You're too busy flaunting your supreme intellect. Right?

Well - I have to disagree with you there. The episodes I mentioned in an earlier post certainly in no way corrode the integrity of rationalism. They support science and rationalism (an example is the episode Quantum Mechanics debunks Materialism) but also teach one to go beyond it with enlightenment/God realization. Here concept is left behind and one actually becomes Truth. One no longer conceptualizes Truth or rationalizes it. They become it. This is also beyond your little dictionary explanation of what transrational means. So yes i DONT grasp the concept, you are correct! 🙂 at least that makes up for you being hopelessly wrong everywhere else. In fact, going with your claim of Acutalized corroding rarionalism - if you actually went back and watched the metaphysical episodes - which actually takes comprehension - something with you i have serious doubts about - you will see this is simply not true - it is your own mind that is making this interpretation and stating it as Absolute..when in fact it is totally relative. But I shouldn't be surprised- your mind lacks the comprehension to even grasp the difference between relative and Absolute. Let me give you a tip - that's just your opinion - and no one actually cares other than perhaps maybe you and your Youtube followers. 🙂

When what goes wrong? When it comes to raw spiritual teachings - a lot can go wrong. You can die. The teacher cannot be held responsible. You listened and then you did the practices to initiate ego death. You. Not the teacher.

To this I would simply say- I can't speak on the WinterKnight case- but from what I remember he did preach that enlightenment was the realization that reality was Nothing. This is correct but incomplete. If I remember correctly he denied that God exists. Meaning that he denied reality was God or Mind. . This is also incomplete. He denied that reality was Love. Again- incomplete. There were many facets of Truth missing from WinterKnight's teachings. Facets he claimed didn't exist. If you recall - he denied Love and he denied Intelligence as facets of the Absolute. I don't know the details of you being asked to leave the forum- but I can tell you it was probably a mistake that he wishes he could take back. And when i am saying the teachings could be recommended i am speaking of the teachings or the videos themselves not any behavior on the forum.

I thought only God could silence you. I was wrong. Well done sir.

@DMT Elf guys I guess we will have to wait until he is unbanned. To be continued..

I guess he's currently paralyzed,... @Lester Retselhere's an idea for the future - if you wanna live to fight another day - back down when you have been outsmarted.

He does. Thank you for pointing that out. But first he needs to acknowledge the trauma that Leo's teachings caused him. If he doesn't- he will continue to take it out on everyone else. It's plain to see. I'm not a psychologist but I can read between the lines.

Lester has been exposed as a Leo hater with absolutely no grounds as to why. If he wishes to explain why I would love to hear it. He started attacking me and name calling me when I pointed out there were some good in the teachings. Some others did as well.

This is a finite explanation-- It was during self inquiry that I realized no self. Realizing no self is the fundamental awakening. And then there is the realization of Infinity - which for me happened during a do nothing meditation practice. . . I later had spontaneous awakenings of being Nothing (which was jaw droppong) - Omniscience- in which i became directly conscious of all of Reality. I understood absolutely everything. . And the final awakening happened spontaneously as well. This was Oneness. Total Oneness and Aloneness.

@Faithanother belittling,,,immature child's play.

It's nothing like Marxism. Bias is a fact of life. If you are alive you have bias. And if you are alive you are trying to survive. There is one who can awaken but its not the one you think of. To say there isn't one that can awaken is the ideology. That is the cult. That is the brainwashing. Stay open minded to the fact that maybe - perhaps you have it backwards.

He doesn't handle confrontation well and resorts to belittling.

@Faith that guy is totally reckless with name calling. He should definitely get it. @Lester Retsel you don't have to take me seriously I guess. Totally your call. But I'm not gonna write a book or make a course just because you say I'm not enlightened or a valid person to talk about Truth unless I do. That's like saying if you don't have a college education or.a PHD in Physics that you can't speak about physics. It's totally relative. There may be people that know more about physics than any professor they just didn't care about the certificate.

LMAO. Nice spin. You force some ultimatum on me - like if I don't post a video on you tube I'm not legit. And then when I say I won't, you gaslight and say and before I ask - which mind you - I did NOT ask - you say "I'm beyond that". Beyond what? Asking why you called me a tool? I don't have to ask that. I don't care. Quit fabricating stories and just have fun. You are lost in some weird anti-leo campaign that's hell bent on some kind of mental justice. Let's just cut to the quick. How did he hurt you mentally? Because he obviously did. What did he do to you that got you like this?

Maybe I will - but I doubt it - I honestly am beyond worldy egoic desires. I have plenty of money so nowadays I just chill.

Here is a tidbit for you guys The self reference problem. Anything finite that tries to point back at itself or reference itself will result in paradox. If you self reflect you will run into paradox. This is because you are Infinite and the finite cannot grasp the Infinite. "This statement is a lie" If it is a lie, it is true - contradicting itself. If its true, it is a lie, also contradicting itself. That is self reflection. it will always result in paradox. Again this is because the finite cannot grasp the infinite. This was discovered in Godels Incompleteness Theorem. If you realize it directly you will awaken. let's say you are a basketball and you try to reach outside of yourself to point back at yourself? You can't. Because anything you try to point back at yourself with would be you!! So you just have to realize you ARE the basketball!! Again -- infinity cannot point back at itself. Infinity cannot reference itself. Because anything it uses to reach outside of itself is itself. It just has to realize it IS itself!!!! It must realize it is Infinity.