Phil Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 @Joseph Maynor Seems like endless justifications, rationalizations and wild accusations based on ignore-ance, misunderstanding & ridiculous assumptions all to defend a nonexistant separate self. It may be related to harboring guilt which can make it seem like ‘all of us need something we can fight with’, or, that the most important thing is who’s right and who’s wrong, or who’s guilty and who’s innocent. Not experiencing thoughts like that isn’t the same as there being a thinker thinking an opposite. Innocence is nondual, appearing as the very thoughts about who’s guilty & who’s innocent. If you’re struggling at all with relationships introspection is more than worthwhile. Not to mention of course health, well-being & that reality is unconditional love. And just one point in regard to the many baseless accusations made, solipsism is delusion. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 22 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said: So are you saying you're not dreaming but everyone else is? This is kinda sounding like Leo Gura. Something like -- everyone is dreaming, but my dream is the one right one. I don't buy into Leo Gura's proposition that we're all dreaming. If you thought we were all dreaming, why would you be trying to correct me and others? This is the whole solipsism thing. It eats itself. I really don't want to challenge this but it gets ridiculous. You have to look at the implications of the conclusion that you're driving toward. I don't agree with Leo Gura or you that life is a dream. I never thought that was true. That's a huge presumption right there. Life doesn't have to be a dream, you're creating that to be so. But I see you're so entrenched in your point of view that you will never waiver on this, so it's pointless to debate this with you or Leo Gura. This is the reason I have avoided arguing with you. I never should have argued with Leo Gura either. You guys are bought in. This is your message to try to help others and I'm not on board with it. I'm similar but different in perspective from you two. You point to me, but I ask you - why are you dreaming the dream you're dreaming? You're making yourself the one right teacher (just like Leo Gura does) in your dream, but why? Why are you creating that dream? See, you and Leo Gura are tacitly assuming you're not dreaming otherwise you wouldn't do this, you wouldn't have an argument. You're both assuming that everyone else is dreaming and in illusion, but you're smarter, you're standing on a ledge of truth without making this mistake yourselves. I don't buy that premise for one minute. If we're all dreaming, that means you are too, and we can thus ask why you're creating the dream you are as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I already know the answer to this puzzle by the way, so keep that in mind. Why do you think Leo and Phil - if he does - are the only ones who have realized or intuited that the Mind paradigm is true over the physical or materialist paradigm (a name not created by Phil or Leo). There are are many who have realized that the Mind paradigm is true - that Consciousness is fundamental. Just because the majority of mankind hasn't broken out of the default paradigm does not mean there aren't many who have. Your view seems very narrow. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just when you're about to give the award for "not getting it" away, a new contender steps in. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Just when you're about to give the award for "not getting it" away, a new contender steps in. Your perspective is relative. 🙂 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 The Tommy Wiseau and the Tommy Chong of spiritual forums here 🤣 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: The Tommy Wiseau and the Tommy Chong of spiritual forums here 🤣 But yet you try so hard to stay off of them. It's a terrible addiction you cannot kick. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Robed Mystic said: But yet you try so hard to stay off of them. It's a terrible addiction you cannot kick. Need the laughs. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: Need the laughs. We all do. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said: We all do. All you need to do is look in a mirror🤣🤣 Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Just now, Jonas Long said: All you need to do is look in a mirror🤣🤣 Hahaha Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: All you need to do is look in a mirror🤣🤣 Perhaps I have. It's just a reflection. What you do with it is what matters . Or does even that matter? Perhaps that is relative as well. Edited January 16 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Alexander said: Hahaha Whatever dude. Don't let this place corrupt you. You had a good foundation and you know what's up. Do not let them break your mind. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 2 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said: Whatever dude. Don't let this place corrupt you. You had a good foundation and you know what's up. Do not let them break your mind. OK I won't. @Phil word salads mean nothing to me.Infinite Love is the Truth not 2 spheres or whatever this dude is mumbling in crypto language. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 You can't break what's broken. And also doesn't exist. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: You can't break what's broken. And also doesn't exist. Why don't you stop trolling and grow up. If you have something meaningful to add to the dialogue then do so. Otherwise just remain taciturn. Edited January 16 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 11 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said: Why don't you stop trolling and grow up. If you have something meaningful to add to the dialogue then do so. Otherwise just remain taciturn. Are you kidding? My contributions are comic gold. The laughter is the meaning. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said: Are you kidding? My contributions are comic gold. The laughter is the meaning. I guess. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 25 minutes ago, Alexander said: OK I won't. @Phil word salads mean nothing to me.Infinite Love is the Truth not 2 spheres or whatever this dude is mumbling in crypto language. Did you find it was only Love? Surely it must be something more than that. Reality I mean. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, Alexander said: OK I won't. @Phil word salads mean nothing to me.Infinite Love is the Truth not 2 spheres or whatever this dude is mumbling in crypto language. GPT estimates the spheres will be common knowledge within 10,000 years. Einstein was arguably the closest to realizing the truth. Must’ve had a tiny speck of bitterness in him. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 3 minutes ago, Phil said: GPT estimates the spheres will be common knowledge within 10,000 years. And it will be Love, as it always was. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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