All Ships are Racist.

[Mandy]

42 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

What even is a belief without a believer? 

A belief

[Jonas Long]

23 minutes ago, Mandy said:

A belief

Isn't a belief without a believer kind of like a gun without a shooter? 

[Mandy]

16 hours ago, Jonas Long said:

Isn't a belief without a believer kind of like a gun without a shooter? 

A belief is not manifest, so no. Just like a ship can't be a racist. That's ridiculous. 

[Phil]

On 11/25/2023 at 6:21 AM, Reena said:

Am I the only one who thinks it's ridiculous to want to have symbols of ships removed from the emblem crests because they're supposedly racist? I don't know why this thing needs to be so significant. Yea I'm against racism. Duh. But isn't this stretching it too far? 

Your donut is racist lol.omg your pudding is racist too. I think even your cigar is racist. I mean you get my point. 

 

Shit like this drew me to the white supremacist group in the first place. It has an opposite effect. I dunno if there's a term in psychology for this. 

Some sort of push back when stuff like this goes too far. 

Yea I know Trump followers are weird. But so are these lefties. 

Initially it might seem as if ships (flags) are racist, and people are debating this point. 

Then it might seem like only people could be racist, not ships or flags, because ships & flags don’t have the property of believing thoughts. 

Then it could be noticed that people is a thought, and thus thought is not aware of thought. 

Only awareness is aware. 

 

[Mandy]

The separate self is the appropriation of everything. 

[Reena]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Initially it might seem as if ships (flags) are racist, and people are debating this point. 

Then it might seem like only people could be racist, not ships or flags, because ships & flags don’t have the property of believing thoughts. 

Then it could be noticed that people is a thought, and thus thought is not aware of thought. 

Only awareness is aware. 

 

I can understand if it's a confederate flag. That can be blatantly racist. 

But a ship emblem is not racist in any way. 

Because there is no corelation between that emblem and slavery. It wasn't chosen as a symbol of ownership of slaves. So the woman in the video has no argument. 

 

[Phil]

24 minutes ago, Reena said:

I can understand if it's a confederate flag. That can be blatantly racist. 

But a ship emblem is not racist in any way. 

Because there is no corelation between that emblem and slavery. It wasn't chosen as a symbol of ownership of slaves. So the woman in the video has no argument. 

 

Can you see that a flag is not racist? 

As a half step, that only people are racist?

 

Please don’t ’pendulum swing’ and believe what’s being said is “Phil supports the confederate flag” or any such nonsense. 🙏🏼 

[Reena]

12 minutes ago, Phil said:

Please don’t ’pendulum swing’ and believe what’s being said is “Phil supports the confederate flag” or any such nonsense. 🙏🏼 

Before you jump on me, I didn't do it. I am mostly decent in my debates. You assume too much about me. You jumped the gun. Say that you take back what you said. 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Reena

[Phil]

@Reena

I didn’t say you did or do that, or would. It was a precautionary statement given the sensitive nature of the conversation, or, racism and that people are the same as unicorns. Also, I’m suggesting that any such notion would be nonsense. Not that anything you’re saying is nonsense. 

[Reena]

@Phil what do you mean by people are the same as unicorns. You confuse me. 

[Phil]

@Reena

There is an experience of the thought, unicorn. 

There is not a unicorn ‘in’ perception. 

Same for the thought, people. 

 

There is racism apparently, yet there are no racists.

There can even be a self referential thought like ‘I am a racist’, and still, there isn’t a racist. 

 

What’s being said is in accordance with reality, or direct experience.

It may very well not be in accordance with beliefs or conditioning.