The Tarot thread

[Orb]

On 11/11/2023 at 10:47 AM, WhiteOwl said:

So recently i've gotten very interested in Tarot. It has been very helpful so far with pointings where to look for imbalances when feeling uncertain.

I usually use certain peoples interpretations from the web, as i find some cards are difficult to interpret myself.

Has anyone gone through learning a lot about the cards? 

 

How does one interpret the court cards for example, and distinquish for example the 4 queens in meaning from each other? 

 

Also where do the "answers" come from? 

 

@Jonas Long@Loop@Mandy I think you all have experience with Tarot?

 

I had a tarot session nearly 2 years ago and the psychic warned me about a car accident coming and told me to be careful, I forgot about that and a year later my car was totaled. 

 

But she also told me great wealth is coming my way 😄.

[Jonas Long]

I've really only had one "good" reading given to me by someone else. Maybe two actually. 

[Mandy]

I've had two readings and they were just as helpful as if I'd picked the cards myself. One of the most fun things about tarot is knowing when the cards pick you. 

[Jonas Long]

Some people don't need cards or any other tools to give readings, there's a difference between being able to do that and being a tarologist though.  It's an esoteric system all to itself.  

[Alexander]

57 minutes ago, Orb said:

I had a tarot session nearly 2 years ago and the psychic warned me about a car accident coming and told me to be careful, I forgot about that and a year later my car was totaled. 

 

But she also told me great wealth is coming my way 😄.

She didn't pointed out what kind of wealth is coming your way.Maybe it's spiritual wealth?

[Orb]

4 minutes ago, Alexander said:

She didn't pointed out what kind of wealth is coming your way.Maybe it's spiritual wealth?

Wealth is wealth! Richness! 

[Alexander]

Just now, Orb said:

Wealth is wealth! Richness! 

You have here and now to do whatever you want and right now just potential for financial wealth.

[Jonas Long]

I also don't like how the sword cards are all negative in rider Waite.  What's their beef with Air? 

[WhiteOwl]

6 hours ago, Phil said:

I once walked into a tarot card reading / psychic place and asked the owner if we could switch roles. Assured her I’d pay just the same. She said that sounds fun, and I don’t know if I’ve ever witness someone ‘crying like a baby’ more. It was beautiful. 

 

Imo the ‘trick’ is there is no trick whatsoever, absolutely. No safety net. No planning or preparation. Just two cents. 

You sound like some superhero sometimes when you talk about your life. Sounds cool.

 

So you didn't know any card meanings but had a lot to say. I am interested, where did the intuition come from? 

 

I like the idea of no safety net, planning or preperation as that is what some people must have done obviously, but i feel doubt and uncertainty about meanings if i don't look up the answers. Maybe it would be a good idea to not allow myself to look.

 

 

 

 

[WhiteOwl]

4 hours ago, Jonas Long said:

I also don't like how the sword cards are all negative in rider Waite.  What's their beef with Air? 

Its not really about negative/positive is it? The "negative" is usually the most "positive" information to recieve. 

 

And swords are about thoughts and beliefs, so it makes sense they are not so "positive" maybe 😛 

Edited November 12, 2023 by WhiteOwl

[Jonas Long]

9 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

Its not really about negative/positive is it? The "negative" is usually the most "positive" information to recieve. 

 

And swords are about thoughts and beliefs, so it makes sense they are not so "positive" maybe 😛 

Each element has their "strengths" and "downfalls", so idk why they pick on air.  In the thoth deck they're more evenly represented in each suite.  

[Phil]

17 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

where did the intuition come from? 

It’s ‘there’ all along, just unfettered or unobscured. 

17 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

 

I like the idea of no safety net, planning or preperation as that is what some people must have done obviously,

Maybe it’s non-doing. 

17 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

but i feel doubt and uncertainty about meanings if i don't look up the answers. Maybe it would be a good idea to not allow myself to look.

When doing a reading, if doubt etc is felt without corresponding thought(s), it’s of the reading, on their behalf. So it’s critical to experience both to be able to tell the difference. In terms of unfettering, doubt might be felt, but there’s no one per se who feels it. 

[WhiteOwl]

11 minutes ago, Phil said:

It’s ‘there’ all along, just unfettered or unobscured. 

When you make a tomato soup, lets say for the first time, would you also be able to make it equally as tasty as a michelin chef who studied and tasted for years just with intuition of how much of everything to add to the dish? If not, why is that different from tarot?

 

14 minutes ago, Phil said:

When doing a reading, if doubt etc is felt without corresponding thought(s), it’s of the reading, on their behalf.

Would you feel more into the reading instead of thinking? My thoughts go to wanting to memorize.

 

How would you go about getting to know and understand the cards?

[WhiteOwl]

41 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

Each element has their "strengths" and "downfalls", so idk why they pick on air.  In the thoth deck they're more evenly represented in each suite.  

I see your point. But i guess that also is in the hands of the reader. It only has the meaning we put onto it

[Jonas Long]

13 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

 

How would you go about getting to know and understand the cards?

Imo its studying the tree of life.  There's a really great book called qabalistic tarot by Robert Wang.  It covers the 4 "major" decks used, including rider waite, also thoth, Marseilles, and golden dawn, I think.  

[Phil]

18 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

When you make a tomato soup, lets say for the first time, would you also be able to make it equally as tasty as a michelin chef who studied and tasted for years just with intuition of how much of everything to add to the dish? If not, why is that different from tarot?

Tarot & soup are the same in that there is only a thought story about doers in time. Just like with a movie, it might seem like there are people and time inside of the movie. That narrative is what awareness, which is appearing as the soup just the same as the body & narrative, is unfettered of. 

 

18 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

Would you feel more into the reading instead of thinking? My thoughts go to wanting to memorize.

It would be impossible for a separate self to feel more into anything, but it is entirely possible to unfetter awareness (feeling) of the self referential narrative. 

18 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

 

How would you go about getting to know and understand the cards?

That was the only time I’ve actually seen them. I’d just meditate every morning, express, inspect beliefs, and share whatever arises when looking at the cards, same as everything else. Knowing & understanding are also thought activity, and can be unfettered as well. Maybe it’s just clarity reading the cards. 

[almond]

17 hours ago, Phil said:

Knowing & understanding are also thought activity, and can be unfettered as well.

 

Is this in lieu to tarot or generally ? I quite agree there. 

without knowing or understand, what's left ? 

Discernment.. ?

[Phil]

Just now, almond said:

without knowing or understand, what's left ? 

Reality.

 

[almond]