The Tarot thread

[WhiteOwl]

So recently i've gotten very interested in Tarot. It has been very helpful so far with pointings where to look for imbalances when feeling uncertain.

I usually use certain peoples interpretations from the web, as i find some cards are difficult to interpret myself.

Has anyone gone through learning a lot about the cards? 

 

How does one interpret the court cards for example, and distinquish for example the 4 queens in meaning from each other? 

 

Also where do the "answers" come from? 

 

@Jonas Long@Loop@Mandy I think you all have experience with Tarot?

 

[WhiteOwl]

How do you interpret the 4 suits in general? Its hard without reading information which there is quite a lot off. A pentacle doesn't intuit me a lot for example.

[Jonas Long]

Wands-fire, male, creative, fire signs(Aries, leo, Sagittarius)

Cups-water, female, receptive, water signs(cancer, scorpio, Pisces)

Pentacles(or coins)-earth, female, grounded, material, earth signs(Taurus, virgo, capricorn)

Swords-air, male, intellect, air signs(gemini, libra, aquarius)

[Jonas Long]

Studying the tree of life will help with the numerology.

[Mandy]

The deck I got is by Kim Krans, and the guidebook is excellent and goes through all of that and is quick to refer to when you pull a card. I refer to it when I want, I'm not an expert in the least. I would suggest just learning them as you go, enjoying them, and using the symbolism and your own interpretations. Some of the artwork on the cards turned out to be really synchronistic, in a way that wouldn't make any sense written in a guidebook. You'll come to know your own deck and your own relationship with them.  It's just a form of guidance or contemplation, be free and creative with it. When the cards are being blunt and giving you a zen slap, you'll know without needing to know all the nuances. 😂

 

5 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

How does one interpret the court cards for example, and distinquish for example the 4 queens in meaning from each other? 

Court cards are the most vague to interpret. Wands, pentacles, swords and cups all deal with different aspects of life.

[Jonas Long]

Court cards corresponding to the 4 world's of Qabalah or the 4 levels on the tree of life.  Knights are the fire/ethereal world, spirit world, queens are the water/emotional level, page or princes are the air/ intellect level, and princesses are the earth/material realm. 

[Jonas Long]

The 4 world's correspond to the tetragramation, YHVH.  

[almond]

Rider's Waite deck for a beginner is useful as there are loot of symbology, but you can choose a deck of your preference. Also you can learn what tarot spread that helps you most. 

[Jonas Long]

I like the Marseille deck for readings, the thoth for study.

[WhiteOwl]

4 hours ago, Jonas Long said:

Studying the tree of life will help with the numerology.

Cool will look into it 🙂

 

4 hours ago, Jonas Long said:

Court cards corresponding to the 4 world's of Qabalah or the 4 levels on the tree of life.  Knights are the fire/ethereal world, spirit world, queens are the water/emotional level, page or princes are the air/ intellect level, and princesses are the earth/material realm. 

But this is stuff you would never think or know intuitively, you have to read and study. But i guess you can learn to use the cards equally effective without so much studying? There are so many sources saying opposite things so it can be confusing.

 

I guess the answers comes down to the person using the cards and how he interprets them. For example if i do a spread for someone, and the cards are also shown to another interpreter, his answer might not be what the cards were saying, since it was based on my ideas.

If that makes sense?

[WhiteOwl]

3 hours ago, almond said:

Rider's Waite deck for a beginner is useful as there are loot of symbology, but you can choose a deck of your preference. Also you can learn what tarot spread that helps you most. 

Yes i use the Riders Waite. I like that one 🙂 

[WhiteOwl]

4 hours ago, Mandy said:

The deck I got is by Kim Krans, and the guidebook is excellent and goes through all of that and is quick to refer to when you pull a card.

Amazing. I found the PDF online, it looks nice i will surely look into that 🙂 

4 hours ago, Mandy said:

When the cards are being blunt and giving you a zen slap, you'll know without needing to know all the nuances. 😂

Yes certainly. It can be funny. I heard about someone using the cards to predict the outcome of football matches. I used to have a gamble addiction for many years, so when i heard it i got a little intrigued. I asked the cards politely if they could be used for that, and the answer was just completely ignoring the question but telling me to fuck off with my poverty mindset. 

You can always tell when the message is ignoring the question and putting your attention to something else.

[Jonas Long]

34 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:

Cool will look into it 🙂

 

But this is stuff you would never think or know intuitively, you have to read and study. But i guess you can learn to use the cards equally effective without so much studying? There are so many sources saying opposite things so it can be confusing.

 

I guess the answers comes down to the person using the cards and how he interprets them. For example if i do a spread for someone, and the cards are also shown to another interpreter, his answer might not be what the cards were saying, since it was based on my ideas.

If that makes sense?

To my way of thinking, studying the deck is crucial.  I don't really believe in purely free associating with it, it's part of it, but the more familiar you become with them the better. 

[almond]

21 hours ago, WhiteOwl said:

Yes i use the Riders Waite. I like that one 🙂 

there is even an After Tarot kit and I loved the illustrations, it's like a pre/sequel.

[Jonas Long]

The rider waite deck was developed by members of the Golden dawn, which aleister crowley was part of.  Much later he developed the thoth deck with Lady freida Harris, its much more "complete" imo.  I've never been a fan of rider Waite personally.  The artist was never happy with the illustrations they went with in the final version.  

Edited November 12, 2023 by Jonas Long

[almond]

you mean the final version aka After tarot ? I was inspired by pixie, the artist who painted the illustrations of Rider's Waite, it's amazing.

[Jonas Long]

4 minutes ago, almond said:

you mean the final version aka After tarot ? I was inspired by pixie, the artist who painted the illustrations of Rider's Waite, it's amazing.

Not familiar with that.  But the artist who originally illustrated the rider waite deck as it's known now was not happy with the illustrations that were used.

[almond]

?

well, that's a bit sad then.

[Jonas Long]

5 minutes ago, almond said:

?

well, that's a bit sad then.

Also sad that the illustrator Pamela smith's name was left off of the deck for many years, basically a sexist oversight. 

[Phil]

I once walked into a tarot card reading / psychic place and asked the owner if we could switch roles. Assured her I’d pay just the same. She said that sounds fun, and I don’t know if I’ve ever witness someone ‘crying like a baby’ more. It was beautiful. 

 

Imo the ‘trick’ is there is no trick whatsoever, absolutely. No safety net. No planning or preparation. Just two cents. 

 

I was just chatting with GPT and asked, what’s with the seeming incapability to remember a user from previous discussion / OpenAI threads, just to see what it’d say. I was right in having had no idea what it’d say.