WhiteOwl Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 As the title says: Alcohol almost always puts me in a sort of depressed state the day after. Yesterday i had 3 beers, wasn't drunk obviously and came home and drank lots of water and took good care of myself, still felt it a little bit in the morning. But that is not the problem. Why can't i be happy even though i feel a little hungover? Many people i know have no problem with that whatsoever and just don't care that much. I feel very fragile if nothing more than a few beers can put me down. Is it my beliefs about alcohol being bad? And i am not asking for advice to stop drinking even though thats obviously best, i do it sometimes but i don't want to stay away from it completely at this point. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 How were you feeling before and during the drinking? Alcohol is a preservative, it's a way of keeping things from spoiling, it used to be very important before refrigeration and indoor plumbing. It's not conducive to the flow of life force in your body, it stops, slows, depresses, dehydrates. Especially if you reach for it when you're already feeling off, it's going to delay any real vibrational emotional improvement, slow the flow of energy until the effects wear off. 11 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said: I feel very fragile if nothing more than a few beers can put me down. Just because people consider it normal doesn't mean that it's desirable for you and your body at this time. You want to be sensitive to the way things affect you, just not obsessive or too rigid about it. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) I remember when I came back from a trip to Athens, Greece for 2 weeks in 2014. I hadn't smoked weed that whole time because I didn't want to mess around bringing it there. I remember fantasizing the whole time I was there about smoking weed when I returned. The funny thing was when I came back I smoked weed and realized right away that it took something away from me. It put me in a kind of prison that I didn't want to be in. An emotional prison that's hard to explain. It set up all kinds of anxieties that only come when you're high on weed. I can talk for ages on alcohol. These substances have pros and cons -- it's a complex discussion. There's a nuance with any drug. Alcohol definitely has pros and cons to it. Most people will not have a reasonable discussion on this I find. It's just one of those forbidden things although most people drink alcohol. I have a love-hate relationship with alcohol. I'll admit that. I aim to stop the BS about this stuff. It's time to get real about drugs other than psychedelics. I have a lot of experience in this area. I've lived in San Francisco for 45 years. I won't say I did it all, but I kinda have. But I want to be careful how I convey that so you don't experience the cons of these things like I did. I have a lot of personal information on drugs or better or worse. it's not a simple answer I can tell you that. A lot of this is taboo and is not going to be expressible in normal avenues of communication. I definitely have a nuanced and complicated perspective regarding drugs that I'm more comfortable talking about in person to be honest. But I'll allude to things here to say you're not alone dude. It's ok. There are pros and cons to everything in life. I'm an explorer type, so my lifestyle is not appropriate for everyone. Just keep your head about you. Edited March 24 by Joseph Maynor Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Alcohol is a depressant. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Another mystery solved. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Elf Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Fuck alcohol. Just smoke weed. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, DMT Elf said: Fuck alcohol. Just smoke weed. I find alcohol is more fun in large social gatherings, weed is more fun with a small amount of good friends. But I know it's different for everyone, I find it insane that some people get high asf and go to large social gatherings with no issues. I'd be freaking out lol Quote Mention ♾️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, DMT Elf said: Fuck alcohol. Just smoke weed. Booze is nice though sometimes Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Elf Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 2 minutes ago, Orb said: I find alcohol is more fun in large social gatherings, weed is more fun with a small amount of good friends. But I know it's different for everyone, I find it insane that some people get high asf and go to large social gatherings with no issues. I'd be freaking out lol I don’t have a problem smoking in large crowds as long as I’m not ridiculously high. But that would go for being drunk too. When I started smoking weed at 15, we were going to dubstep shows all the time, so I got used to tho crowds I guess. Alcohol makes me more extroverted, but also a LOT dumber. Whereas with weed I feel much more in control. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Elf Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 8 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Booze is nice though sometimes I’ve enjoyed drinking in the past, but I stopped for a reason. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 6 hours ago, WhiteOwl said: As the title says: Alcohol almost always puts me in a sort of depressed state the day after. Yesterday i had 3 beers, wasn't drunk obviously and came home and drank lots of water and took good care of myself, still felt it a little bit in the morning. But that is not the problem. Why can't i be happy even though i feel a little hungover? Many people i know have no problem with that whatsoever and just don't care that much. I feel very fragile if nothing more than a few beers can put me down. Is it my beliefs about alcohol being bad? And i am not asking for advice to stop drinking even though thats obviously best, i do it sometimes but i don't want to stay away from it completely at this point. It’s the belief in states. “Alcohol puts me in a”. No it doesn’t. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 1 minute ago, DMT Elf said: I’ve enjoyed drinking in the past, but I stopped for a reason. Ive stopped for reasons, and started again for reasons. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Elf Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Ive stopped for reasons, and started again for reasons. It’s been a year and a half and I still feel no desire to drink. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 minutes ago, DMT Elf said: It’s been a year and a half and I still feel no desire to drink. I quit for about 3 years, and I never felt a desire to drink. But eventually I realized that drinking wasn't the problem I had to begin with, because the problem I was hoping to solve didn't go away. But I'm not an alcoholic, I get that people are. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMT Elf Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 49 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: I quit for about 3 years, and I never felt a desire to drink. But eventually I realized that drinking wasn't the problem I had to begin with, because the problem I was hoping to solve didn't go away. But I'm not an alcoholic, I get that people are. There’s a whole wide world of mind altering substances out there, but essentially what society has done is picked the worst one and chose to promote it. And not only is it the worst one, but it’s more addictive than meth. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 4 hours ago, Jonas Long said: But I'm not an alcoholic, I get that people are. I suspect that alcohol is mainly (ab)used for pain management, physical, emotional, doesn't matter. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 5 minutes ago, Mandy said: I suspect that alcohol is mainly (ab)used for pain management, physical, emotional, doesn't matter. Also social lube lol Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 @Jonas Long That's still the same idea though. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 12 hours ago, Mandy said: How were you feeling before and during the drinking? Anxious, fluctuating up and down. It was a group of new people or people i don't see often. Lots of things happening "inside". Judgements, insecurity, unpleasant thoughts, also some good moments. Overall was pretty good. Still thinking through most sentences i say before i say them and holding myself back, which is unpleasant. Afraid to appear stupid or awkvard, or to be disliked. I surely use it as a means to feeling more at ease, otherwise i wouldn't do it. I also don't like the judgements of not drinking sometimes. I feel like i need something in situations like that to find the right energy. A beer in my hand just makes it easier even though its an escape. The ideal would be to be completely at ease without it, enjoying just conversating without fear.. how though. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 8 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said: I definitely have a nuanced and complicated perspective regarding drugs that I'm more comfortable talking about in person to be honest. Thanks for your reply. If you mean experimenting with your substances, i did that as well. I prefer ketamine if i go clubbing. no hangover and way better for the purpose i want, dancing, enjoying music etc. But that doesn't work in a setting like the described one. sometimes i will run into situations where i want to drink to enjoy the company.. most people around me don't do anything without alcohol involved. 6 hours ago, DMT Elf said: Fuck alcohol. Just smoke weed. I don't enjoy like so much currently. Whenever i'm high i don't really enjoy it, and i don't get anything done when i do. If i try to make music while high i get nothing done. Social situations is a no-no also most of the time. You are right on the fuck alcohol part though 6 hours ago, Phil said: It’s the belief in states. “Alcohol puts me in a”. No it doesn’t. So the depressed feeling is just focusing on unwanted? Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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