Forza21
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Thank you all for your advices ❤️ and especially @Phil
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Hi. I feel like i don't quite get it, how this dream board and decision-making process should actually look like.
When i meditate, i can clearly see, that whatever i want, is constantly changing. Everything is a thought.
And... it's like non-stop thoughts contradicts each other.
For example
thought : " i should move to country XYZ. I don't feel good here!"
<few thoughts later>
thought: i should stay here, i like my home"
and it's like that with every decision. Every desire. Every dream.I should go/stay....
I should break up with my girfriend/i should stay because i love her.
I should start some new business/ i should escape this matrix, and have very simple career...
and so on.It's impossible to make dreamboard based on constantly changing thoughts. I am not clear at all, what would i want. And why.
Deep down, i know, that nothing short of non-self realization, is going bring me fulfillment.
This "I" is root of all problems. This "I" doesn't know, it's constantly in oppositon to itself, constantly strugless with life and everything.
So there's also thoughts, that maybe i should go and meditate full time, and i should become a monk...
But than it's like "neee, i should travel i want travel!"it' s crazy, i feel like i'm stuck with this.
Also, knowlage, that i'm not a doer, makes it worse - because i just wait, and do nothing... and i feel bad about this.
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On 6/5/2023 at 9:04 PM, Phil said:
If there was an experience, possibly involving psychedelics… but either way… the void is not being as in Self - the true nature - pure consciousness, but is appearance of. I sincerely feel for ya if that is the case, as the void is not a fun ‘place’ at all. This is why I often mention the 3-4g zone mushrooms wise is the no go zone (not implying that’s indicative of your experience, just as a reference). It’s essentially limbo. I would bet the majority of experiences of nihilism, despair & hopelessness on one’s path actually stemmed from “reaching” the void / limbo, being quite discouraged & disappointed, overlooking conjecture & the role it’s playing, and nobody realizing what’s going on in that regard. The experience of void without ‘the breakthrough’ to / of / as the true nature / pure consciousness is pretty dang horrible. It’s like looking at, going through, very literally, infinite being being creation - backwards. It only makes sense infinitely when it to, even the void, is dispelled. I can definitely see where it would seem like ‘hell’, but of course, that’s still apparent duality.
The term “Nothing”…. No Thing. Not-a-thing… (Infinite)
Emptiness is a pointer to the apparent finite mind & the emptying of (conditioning, conjecture, beliefs, etc). Again all methods are aligned with this.
Nothing is synonymous with infinity, Self, Actuality, Fullness. As in, it turns out there are not ‘things’ or separation, and this is WONDERFUL (more ‘technically’, ineffable). Infinity, infinite (fullness) can not be thought as in thunk by the finite mind Fulness is appearing as. If there is suffering, as in a beef with reality / the true nature… it’s with thoughts about, and or an experience of void / limbo, and not actually with Self, the true nature, infinite being, infinity - Fullness.
Yes you can trust me - i am doing a work.
Currently meditating for about 2-3h daily, doing emotion work, psychotherapy, improve classes. I might add also journaling.
If it comes to void - i would like to ask you.
I have experienced it, actually 3 times.
Once on psychedelics, and 2 times during my sleep.One night, i recognized that i'm dreaming, and the whole dream started to collapse. I wasn't really fighting it, and i ended up in void - there was nothing, all black, only sense of "i am" was there. It wasn't fun at all, but after a while, i started to feel my legs, arms, head... and i ended up in "real" world, waking up.
The one on psychedelics was much more traumatic. All the reality collapsed into the void, i was left alone. But when i said words to my GF " are you there?" all apparent creation came back. ( it's funny, similar to Bible "at the beginning there was the word").
So what is it, really? i don't really understand that description of backwards creation. Could you further explain?
Also, there are some people saying, that consciousness is not a final step, it still subtle identification with something ( universal consciousness), when that's gone... well, there's just no-self, but also no god or divine at all.
Adyashanti talked about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFqNaCCLVao&ab_channel=Adyashanti
This is also in Buddhism described as "anatta".
Does it make sense to you?
I guess my issue is that i lack trust in reality sometimes. I am afraid, that it's all hell/ and core of reality is really bad, there's no "happy" ending in all of this, only big terror and disappointment. That's why i practice hard, and read a lot about spirituality, i just want to 'find out" what's really the truth.
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There are times like today, where i really can't see any point in all of this.
Why so much suffering over nothing?
It is all NOTHING. Pure emptiness. There's no me, you, world, time, space, nothing at all.
At yet, we are here, clueless, left to get sick, suffer and die.
And it doesn't even matter, at all, all of it didn't really happend.So why so much suffering?
I can't really find anything i want to do in so called "relative life" . I know it is all gonna bring unsatisfaction anyway, and it will be gone in no-time. No trace left. So just just sit and meditate, but still it doesn't make any sense.
There's nothing to gain, nothing to lose, so why so much suffering? so much trying and struggle? over nothing!why sickness, disabilites, death of relatives it doesn't make any sense
unless "void" is sadistic in nature, how's it even possible it's "uncoditional love?" maybe it's all hell and we tall overselves stories that it's diffrent.
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9 hours ago, Blessed2 said:
@Phil I just did the scale like this:
I am experiencing the emotion disappointment.
I am experiencing the emotion overwhelment.
I am experiencing the emotion impatience.
I am experiencing the emotion pessimism.
I am experiencing the emotion boredom.
I am experiencing the emotion contentment.
I am experiencing the emotion hopefulness.
I am experiencing the emotion optimism.
I am experiencing the emotion eagerness.
I am experiencing the emotion passion.
I am experiencing the emotion joy.
Not really even trying to feel the emotions or trying to get to joy, just starting where I'm at and walking forward from there and at each one mostly just noticing "yeah I can kinda remember how this one might feel" etc. Is this at least a step to the right direction?
Look close into emotions. Is there sensation AND someone or something aware of it ? Is there an „ i am” aware off something ?Feel everything that is present right now, and be aware of interpretation your mind is putting on the top of it. It can be thoughts like „i cant handle this” , „this is too much”, „its hopless” „im in hell” . „This is terrible” „im broken” . Itd.
those are just thoughts. No need to push them, let them be. Just feel and „die” into sensation that is present right now.
or you could ask „what am i resisting right now?”
Notice „resistance” and let it be. Dont fight it, just tap into that.
if its really intense, just lie down on The floor and say to yourself „ok i let it be. Even if i die”.
it is literally about surrender to what is. And what is … is. And its unconditional.
I promise you, you have my word, that theres nothing wrong with emotions you have. It is all unconditional love, and it wants to express exactly as it is. No need to fight it or change it.
is there any problem RIGHT now?or just thoughts about a problem ?
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Today it hit me.
Your mind is always on the imaginery path to only have positive experiences. Always in the future. Always with big „no” to here and now.
The heart, however, wants to experience everything exactly as it is. Also the pain. The grief. The hurt. The sadness. The anger. Finding silence beauty in all of it. Everything in the universe wants to be exactly as it is. Everything wants to be accepted exactly as it is.
Stop resisting your emotions. Feel everything.
This is unconditional love.
I know @Phil talks about it over and over, but when it finally lands it really feels diffrent. So i wanted to share.
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Yes. Its true.
it is only now.
I cant tell if something really happend or not.
its like everything is apparently happening .
but it also can go nihilistic very quick - why do anything than ?
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wow, great explanation.
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54 minutes ago, Phil said:
The ‘teaching’ is the materialist paradigm, that there are separate selves… which become enlightened (see The Enlightened Self, Why You Avoid The Truth, etc, etc, etc).
This is false.
The ‘teaching’ is also solipsistic panpsychism, that ‘you are the only aware thing’.
This is false.
The ‘teaching’ is that humans awaken and become God-consciousness / alien kangaroo mouse consciousness and that Leo is the most awakened human / God / alien kangaroo mouse.
This is false.
‘The teaching’ & delivery is already corrupt, and no one’s feedback, comments or opinions are corrupting anything.
Psychological manipulation, verbal abuse, intimidation, threats of being separated from the community (exclusion, isolation, community excommunication) & textbook gaslighting are all employed.
(See Leo’s comment in Cupcakes post below).
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gaslighting
1. Psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator.
Gaslighting can be a very effective tool for the abuser to control an individual. It's done slowly so the victim writes off the event as a one off or oddity and doesn't realize they are being controlled and manipulated. Gaslighting can happen in any relationship circumstance, including between friends and family members—not just in couple relationships. This is a classic gaslighting technique; telling victims that others are crazy and lying, and that the gaslighter is the only source for "true" information.
2. The act or practice of grossly misleading someone especially for one's own advantage.
Election season can create emotions spanning from immense anxiety all the way to extreme apathy. The public arguing, divisiveness, and competition for votes, including political gaslighting, can be overwhelming and exhausting.
As the midterm elections approach, Americans have gotten an earful both about crime itself and how the other side is distorting the news about it for political gain. "Cherry-picking!" "Fearmongering!" "Gaslighting!"
Intense gaslighting techniques are making it difficult for Montana’s commoners to discern what’s truth and what’s propaganda.
This corporate gaslighting effectively blames children for being addicted to social media and conveniently ignores how companies have intentionally designed their products to have addictive features.
By claiming to be the most awake person, human or separate self based on apparent knowledge / understanding, stating users / others are not awake and threatening to ban and literally murder anyone who questions this, and by brainwashing (‘if you don’t love Hitler you’re not awake’, etc) & allowing users to state ‘the point is to love Leo’… by definition this is a demanding of & implementing of a cult of personality.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult of personality
Cult of personality:
A situation in which a public figure is deliberately presented to the people as a great person who should be admired and loved.
This is all fine for that forum and apparently for you, but it isn’t acceptable here.
Here there is no personal hierarchy of (infinite) consciousness and this is personal stuff / shadow work, beliefs / ‘ego’ to inspect & dispel.
Here, how many comments one makes, what one owns, or believes one knows or understands doesn’t translate to not abiding by or being above the guidelines.
Here playing mind games like these, supporting these ‘teachings’ and or threatening people’s lives is (obviously) unacceptable.
Don't forget he is way over Jesus and Buddha. Unless you want to be killed by Leo.
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Here, a great map.
http://www.awakeningtoreality.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html?m=1
Buddhism says „The i am sense” is just very begining. Its step 1 out of 7… 🙂
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9 minutes ago, Floorcat said:
@PhilOne sec - I've just found this:
Is this you asking questions other forum members about no-self & not understanding? I thought you were realised? Am I missing something? Are you not Nahm?
Its Phil taking role of decent „not realized” body-mind complex. I thought it was obvious 🙃 -
1 minute ago, Phil said:
27th at 7pm & 28th at noon - eastern time.
Here’s a time converter. Just type your city in.
Thanks. I'm going to be there tomorrow than, 🙂
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For those who recently were still on the actualize.org : is is true, that "new level of Leo's awaking" includes morphing into alien? and his recent claims are that he found "alien love" which is beyond human roam? xD or is it just a joke? i have no idea what's really going on there, and have zero desire to check it myself, just heard some rumors, and i'm curious 😄
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For those who recently were still on the actualize.org : is is true, that "new level of Leo's awaking" includes morphing into alien? and his recent claims are that he found "alien love" which is beyond human roam? xD or is it just a joke? i have no idea what's really going on there, and have zero desire to check it myself, just heard some rumors, and i'm curious 😄
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48 minutes ago, Phil said:
Yes, today & tomorrow.
I’ll send the invites to the email used when registering an account here.
If there’s another email I should use, just pm it to me.
If anyone who hasn’t commented on this thread is interested just shoot me your email by pm. All are welcome, and you don’t have to use your mic or camera if you don’t want to. It’s funner if you do though! 🙂
Thanks!
I am lost if it comes to what hour, even it's "noon" it supposed to be already on. We have also diffrent hour on "events" . Im lost 😄
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Are we gonna get zoom link on e-mail ? Or Here ?
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Ive noticed same thing, since ive started to meditate a lot. Its confusing at times, i dont really remember what i did yestarday. Perception of time is diffrent too. I guess its because there are less thoughts about past, so mind doesnt „learn” it, and its harder to remember.
sometimes i also wonder if everything is ok with me also, but those are just more thoughts…
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check this out, its about your exact question.
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At 53:24 its full video how it looks. Before that its an interview with guy who invented it.
mindblow.
From their website:
Observatory collapses the space between what you are looking at and where you are seeing from.
When all distance collapses, you are no longer looking into the world—all of the world is looking out of you!
what do yoy guys think ?its what do you mean by spheres @Phil ?
damn, if only i could go to LA for that 🙂
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Can we heal ourselves just by focusing on affirmation? To what extend?
Can we heal cold ?
how wbout cancer?
do you have any experiences with this ? What works ?
i am only familiar with David Hawkins method, its exactly what Phil says, just emptying belifes that feel shity, and do postive affirmation instead. It goes like that:
„i am healthy. Theres no outer circumstances. I am the infinite being, no limits are actual, my only limitation is what i keep in my mind.”
its like David knew Phil’s work well, right?😂 (are you familiar with David Hawkins btw ?)
but it doesnt seem to heal me from my cold right now. Any advices ?
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7 hours ago, Phil said:
Chakras spin each way and the general idea is aligning all of them so they’re spinning the same way. There is also velocity to consider. The velocity can be seen by holding a pendulum above a chakra. It’ll spin without any effort, mirroring the spin of each chakra. Sometimes it hardly spins, and sometimes it spins so fast it’s spinning at an almost 90 degree angle & has to be held tighter. The velocity of the spin is indicative of the energy vortices (chakras).
What’s comes to mind is less about aligning spins, and more about velocity & resistance.
Yes. Experienced differently but essentially the same. Every ‘part’ is really the whole. Everything is vibrational and therein ‘interconnected’. To hear the next word is to see the whole life, the reality one is creating; to see the whole life is to already hear the next word. And there’s an exception to every rule as well.
Not knowing is inherently peaceful, graceful, spacious spontaneous happiness, synonymous with infinite being, the true nature, or simply Truth. The frustration definitely doesn’t arise of not knowing. The tension & frustration arise in conjunction with beliefs which aren’t indicative of direct experience.
Meditation is an allowing of the body to deeply relax & of the activity of thought to settle. What’s discord of what’s believed is felt as tension & frustration, and the beliefs are what comes ‘up & out’ of the body.
Just like food is tasted when barfing, beliefs are experienced as beliefs are released. The beliefs that are coming up & out are about there being a focuser or doer of focus, and also about lack & shortage, on behalf of the alleged doer of focuser.
There is a velocity at which the beliefs come up & out, and the resistance is only the believing of the thoughts as they’re coming up & out. In the believing of the thoughts there is an experience of confusion in attempting to figure out or resolve the activity of thought, with more activity of thought.
The tension & frustration are how the thoughts about there being a focuser or doer of focus feel, to you. The tension & frustration aren’t experienced due to lack or shortage, but are the natural response to those thoughts.
Do nothing meditation might clarify, as in accordance with do nothing focusing or not focusing are regarded as doing.
Relax and rest assured sinking into feeling, that you definitely aren’t doing anything wrong. If the ‘up & out’ aspect get’s challenging or difficult, express what’s arising using the scale. Take care to express as ‘I’m experiencing frustration’, rather than ‘I’m frustrated’. The difference is subtle yet substantial, and is similar to there being focus vs accrediting or claiming the focus.
On a mindfulness note, you’re aware of thoughts, you’re not in thoughts. A thought which implies you’re in the thought, is a thought loop. ‘I’m frustrated’ is a thought loop.
All of this together as one experience is the velocity & resistance, and serves as indicators that you are the creator of your reality, and there is no right & wrong, shortage or lack.
Phil, this post is gold. Really. Amazing clarity, it really really gets me. Add this to your website!❤️
one question though.
If im not a doer, nor thinker, than who’s creator of my reality ? It all just seem to happen all by itself. Isnt my „job” just „watching” it unfolds ?
Dream board and decision-making is impossible.
in The Path
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hahahahahahahaha, i sincerely started to laugh as crazy.
Holly fuck, it's so stupid simple and thoughts make it so complicated xD
"This is what i see" got me...
Thaaaaank you ❤️ ❤️