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    I Love You.

    in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition

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    16 minutes ago, Phil said:

    There isn’t the you of ‘you’re imagining that’. 

    There is no you. 

     

    How do those two statements seem conflicting? 

     

    Is this clearer… there is no you of ‘you’re imaging that’ because there is no you…? 

    Or maybe… because there is no you… there is no truth to… ‘you’re imagining that’… ?

    There is a contradiction between there's no you in "there's no you imaging that " and "I love you ".

    17 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Check direct experience (thought, perception, sensation) for “understanding”.

    What’s being suggested is ‘understanding’ is the thought ‘understanding’… and that whats being said or suggested is in accordance with direct experience. 

     

    What might be called a room or a universe is a sphere. (‘World-sphere’)

    What might be called a head & peripheral vision is a sphere. (‘Lens-sphere’). 

     

    This is based only on direct experience, and not understanding or any other thoughts. Thoughts are an appearance of the lens-sphere. This is why there seems to be an experience of thoughts, yet thoughts are never actually perceived as in seen or heard. No one has ever actually seen a thought. It’s like a rumor that really spiraled.

    Great. I understand it better now .thanks .

    I Love You.

    in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition

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    3 minutes ago, Phil said:

    There isn’t and never was a problem. All that was said is there aren’t separate selves, only unconditional love. I’m at a loss as to why anyone would want to participate in or belong to a community purportedly about Truth, while members are excommunicated for sharing it. 

    I get ya . Well ..he mentioned in the post in which he announced your demoting that you overuse these spiritual concepts when people ask for almost anything which means they want practical advice. 

    Pardon him..I also believe that have created a spiritual ego ..imagine yourself surrounded by people,..who are mere avatars of their sleeping selves..He has no converging point with them.

    While trying to wake them up

    he must go on contradicting all other spiritual teachers including you and Rupert Spira etc until they wake up. He simply  can not  agree with other teachers because in his mind (and he said that over the years ) he reached Levels of awakening that no human have ever reached . I neither believe nor disagree with that ...I'm just trying to learn what resonates with me and ignore the rest .

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    @Phil Sometimes the best response is no response at all. However.. if i feel compelled i might say something like “I refuse to dignify your rudeness with a response.”

    your ass is 40+ age now..stop these hilarious children play responses . I can appreciate houmous posts but you just suck at it .

    BTW...it seems like you are clinging to nonduality nonsense like how a castration-anxiety  filled person is clinging to his penis and balls .

     

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    18 hours ago, Phil said:

    No, Catholicism is true. Last Thursdayism too. 

    Nondualism too.

    9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    How does direct experience validate solipsism? 

    The only thing that exists is you plus what you are conscious of right now . This fits the Wikipedia definition of metaphysical solipsism.  Give it a Google. 

    9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    Here was my question: If you believe solipsism is true, why wouldn't you act like it too?

    Because acting like its true is no different than acting like it's not true . Just like in a dream ...what's the difference between being lucid in a dream vs being completely hypnotised by the dream ? The only thing that differs is you are conscious that it's all a dream.  Nothing more .

    9 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    Now, why would you act like other people exist?  You wouldn't!  That's the catch.  The way you present in the world would be very different from the way people who talk about solipsism being true actually behave.  It's a conclusion that begs the question as to what supports it and whether that's even reflective in people's conduct, because it appears not to be.

    Other people obviously exist as objects that has sentient in my own direct experience.  But I know that no one is REALLY conscious but me . So I deal with them for practical reasons. And also  because I myself have not made full 100% peace with solipsism  because I'm still attached to dreaming .going balls into the wall with solipsism means metaphorical suicide. 

    6 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

     

    By "shock", you mean the emotion fear?

     

    There's a thought "I have cancer", the thought feels like fear and fear feels off so the thought "I have cancer" is denied to be true?

     

    Yes exactly. 

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    5 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    But you would think that one test of whether something can be a true belief is if it can be taken to be true in practice. 

    Not necessarily.  Kids believe in Santa without this belief being applicable or correlative to direct experience .

    Christians believe in Jesus without there being one single historical or archaeological evidence that he even existed !

    8 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    If you knew something was true, why would you take falsehood over that truth in practice?

    Because truth can be ugly . If you got cancer which will be something true you might lose touch with reality as a result of the shock . You can't accept that you have cancer .you don't want to accept it . You'd rather deny it than accept it even though you know it's true .

    11 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:

    If solipsism were true you would think someone who believed this would act very differently towards external reality including other people.

    Again not necessary. 

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    @Joseph Maynor  solipsism is true.  The only problem is its too radical to accept and come to terms with .of course nobody believes In solipsism because its just you . You either believe in it or not . And you can believe in it and still have functional life and interract with "others " .exactly like what happens in a dream 

     

    Why is reality "dense " ?

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    7 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Exist is sometimes used to mean separate of, as in a separate physical thing. 

    Exist is also sometimes used to mean stand apart from, as if separate, but not separate in actuality

    No I'm not talking about separation. 

    By existence I mean that which is . It can't be defined because it is that which  appears as the very definition. 

    10 minutes ago, Phil said:

    As is it noticed or acknowledged, again in honesty and with integrity, that ‘separation’ is a thought experienced, we can lean to the latter usage of the word exist.

    Like I said I'm not using the word exist to mean separation.  Just the mere fact of its either "there " or not "there ".

    My IPhone is there .it exists . Santa cluase isn't there .

    12 minutes ago, Phil said:

    So then with respect to the inquiry - Why Is (‘it’) Reality Dense? - Is reality (‘it’) meant as a separate physical thing, or seems to stand apart from but is in fact not actually separate?

    Separate or not separate from what exactly?  There is only reality .it's not separate from itself .that doesn't make sense .

    Why is reality "dense " ?

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    3 minutes ago, Phil said:

     "Steel wall’ is a thought experienced.

    Perception is a experience of perception

    A thought is a thought . An object is an object .

    The thought of a wall is a thought of a wall.

    The object we call a wall is the object we call a wall.

    Nothing more .nothing less .

    Anything else regarding this point is unnecessary word play.

    7 minutes ago, Phil said:

    the ‘label’ sense, it might seem like ‘steel wall’ is a label for a separate thing, and then that there is a thing, a ‘steel wall’. 

     

    Yup.

    7 minutes ago, Phil said:

    Also maybe what you’re really asking is why does experiential reality feel so real?

    Or maybe why can’t a body run through a (steel) wall?

     

    No.im asking why its dense . For example there exist solid stiff objects.  A celestial world might be less heavy. 

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