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    Thoughts & Duality

    in The Path

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, Mandy said:

    Why use the most extreme specific example? 

    Cutting in line. A line is the MOST BASIC FORM OF FAIRNESS. In a line..everyone is equal..except those assholes that assume their time is more valuable than yours.

    8 minutes ago, Mandy said:

    Specific vs general is a fascinating thing. Suffering is demanding to stay specific when the lens must be zoomed out to focus again clearly. 

    Idk what you're saying .

    Thoughts & Duality

    in The Path

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    11 minutes ago, Orb said:

    @Someone here are you interested in self realization or self conceptualization? 

     

    If it's the 2nd option, you can keep banging your head against the wall, you won't find what you want on this forum.

    I'm not interested in anything really.  I'm just expressing myself. 

    Both self realisation and self conceptualization are toys and distractions on the path .

    This work is about total liberation from boxing things into categories. 

    This whole "either or " bullshit. 

    Thoughts & Duality

    in The Path

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, Phil said:

    ♥️🎯

     

    It seems ‘your mind’ as it were is pretty twisted up with dualisms like there being an abstract philosophical absolute perspective, and a relative or practical perspective, at the expense (suffering) of overlooking the sep self of thoughts. There’s nothing wrong with that, but truth is shared here. It’s the point of a spiritual forum. 

    I get what the problem  is .."Just Witness. Analysing it is just mental masturbation. Good..Bad..Ugly..disgusting etc  are just thoughts. Awareness is. Everything else that we do is a colour and a  happening".

     

    I fucking get that. 

    But what you don't get is that existence obviously isn't just this realisation..You choose to identify as awareness but how can you choose a piece of reality and not the rest of it? That’s what’s frustrating.. before you ask.. yes I’ve done meditation till the end. Yes I’ve identified as awareness and felt peace the peace that passes understanding as some put it but it’s not reality as it is. It’s like a self help technique for people who are suicidal or struggle with mental health issues..i’m sorry if this sounds brutal but it’s just how I see things. Your perspective that there is no you is just a partial limited perspective..but not reality as it’s whole. 

    I'm out .

    Thoughts & Duality

    in The Path

    Posted

    18 minutes ago, Phil said:

    . Try to see ‘we’re all children of God’ as it were.

    There is no such thing as God. 

    18 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:

     

    I'm kind of lost as to how we got here from the original post. I don't see the connection.

     

    You're not asked to somehow be without thoughts or something. That's not what's being said here.

     

    I'm very sorry if you've catched that interpretation (that you must be without thoughts). I totally feel you, that stuff feels horrible.

     

    It's simple ..you said thought does not ever define who you are and has nothing to do with your repute . I ask : I agree from the abstract philosophical absolute perspective..but from the practical perspective you need the thought story of being a self In time to put bread on the table at the very least .

    Thoughts & Duality

    in The Path

    Posted

    @Phil you haven't answered the question in the slightest little bit . I didn't ask for your definition of the word wrong nor of the word consciousness. 

    I asked: is it wrong to fuck your child ?

    Answer this . 

    But of course you won't. And you can't. 

    Because what this perspective (in OP which you agree with) implies that nothing is ever  wrong . Given that there is no separate self ..a knower or a doer ..you can fuck your child while getting fucked analy by donkey and drinking dog  piss .. And that won't be wrong because wrong ls thought and there isn't  a you. 

    ( and before you issue me a warning..slow down and notice that there is nothing wrong with my post ).

    Thoughts & Duality

    in The Path

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, Phil said:

    @Someone here

    It isn’t relieving, noticing wrong is just the thought ™️  ’wrong’, relative to believing in right & wrong as ‘the knower’? 

     

     

    Is it "wrong " to have sex with a child ?

    Even worse ..is it wrong to have sex with your child? 

    (Please answer this question as clearly as possible..it's "going somewhere "..it just needs build-up first because right &wrong and morality is a tricky topic ).

    16 minutes ago, Phil said:

    What gives? 🤷‍♀️ 

    All people. 

    How to avoid the trap of falling into hedonism?

    in Emptying

    Posted

    I've been a good boy since the beginning of this year . Eating healthy .meditation. getting enough rest .sunlight etc

    But it's been few weeks now that I'm experiencing a huge urge to just binge out on cigarettes ..video games ..fappig to the most despicable porn out there ..eating junk crap food that tastes fucking awesome etc

    I don't want to fall into my old habits .

    Is suicide a normal human activity?

    in Emptying

    Posted · Edited by Someone here

    On 5/8/2024 at 11:45 PM, Blessed2 said:

    What I was trying to point out was that if life was known to be unconditional and unlimited as it is, now, already, (all conditions and limits being only ever implied by thought), why would experiencing death be required to know that there is nothing in death that cannot be life 

    Simply because death is unknown.  Completely. The body seems to die . What goes on after that ? Nobody knows . Whereas life is literally exactly what it appears as . It is known .Work on your argumentation capacity. 

    On 5/8/2024 at 11:45 PM, Blessed2 said:

    Fear of death is not "natural".

     

    Is it too much to ask to feel good?

     

    You think that God wills you to live in fear?

     

    God wills you to suffer?

    It has nothing to do with god . Fuck God.  All this "Naming " will fly out of the window when I point a gun towards your head .

    Is suicide a normal human activity?

    in Emptying

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

    What if I know what life is? 🙂

    Nobody knows . Don't fool yourself. Appreciate the mystery. 

    5 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

    What does the concept of fear of death bring to mind? Is it something you must overcome perhaps? Is it some kind of an ultimate existential pickle? Terror, even? Keeping you awake at night?

     

    Of course I fear death . Its natural 

    Is suicide a normal human activity?

    in Emptying

    Posted

    53 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:

    One of the few thoughts about death that are not totally insane is that there is nothing in death that cannot be in life.

     

    Like for example, happiness, peace, freedom, release, rest, innocence, forgiveness, atonement, redemption. All of these are fully available in life. There is nothing in death that cannot be in life.

     

    This assumes you know what death is ..which is superfluous because you haven't die yet .

     

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