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    Duality Between Clarity and Cloudy Mind

    in The Path

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    21 hours ago, Orb said:

    At night or in the middle of the day I'll meditate and feel expansive awareness, then intuitively recognize that the true self is not even that expansive awareness. Then the next morning the body feels like a dried up sponge from dehydration and rebound from drinking coffee and taking kratom. I'll meditate first thing in the morning and I'll tell you that no matter what it always feels like shit. And it's so uncomfortable that I don't give a damn about self inquiring, I just want coffee or something for the body to feel better. But I've heard hundreds of times that self realization unfolds no matter what. I don't at all agree with the notion that you have to be 100 percent drug free, eating perfect diet, etc. in order for self realization to unfold, the biggest proof is Sri Nisargaddata, dude smoked cigarettes everyday and even died of cancer in his 80s. And he's one of the real ones.

     

     

    You are pointing is precise. Your body/mind need to “heat up”. For me when i start doing anything - talking, working , playing i feel pretty tired but i get more and more energetic as i do that thing. Try it out. I dont mean it as it sounds - like you are not trying. I mean it in the practical first person experience. Try it in a conversation with someone you know and trust - gossip about someone or some topic you find catchy that is not too personal or emotionally overwhelming. 

    Is Perception Flat or Does it Have Depth?

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    @Orb  You would be PERCIEVING similarly even when become "explicitly aware" that your being is experienced before what it is appearing. (which is so simply it is almost funny; almost always you will know intuitively this is to be the case). The most important thing is what can you do with yourself in terms of practical function(in the context of being aware of your being) <being/conscious> could learn, love, perform, connect with others and more can be explored for sure. I have seen people who put it all on their being when it comes to prioritizing tasks or answering questions or even connecting with friends(they will take a decision towards a friend based on what their being is "informing" because in the long term that would put them in a better position both for themselves and for the friend rather than taking a decision based on how one is feeling at the moment). The function of this aspect of your being which is unconditioned is what it is interesting. It can shape your decision making but also your experience. It is good to know this all, what is making the bubble, why sometimes there is a bubble sometimes there is not, who are you in direct experience and so on and so on - interesting but it wont change so much.

    How do you know when you are doing something that you love?

    in The Path

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    5 hours ago, Phil said:

    Look at what’s already written and ‘pick out the selves’. Include unconditional in the selves category.

    The clarity of seeing it on paper simultaneously is the clarity of mind for having looked.

    Then include the emotional scale in journaling and express in accordance with it. 

     

    Meditation is fundamental in that it’s an un-obscuring, and therein is an allowing of potentiality & spontaneity where the activity of thought seemed to be.

     

    Using the backside of the dreamboard makes it all kinda effortless & enjoyable. 

    https://www.actualityofbeing.com/dreamboard-1

     

    WHAT IS THE BACKSIDE FOR?

    Inspection. The vantage point of ‘what you’re thinkin’, written on the board, is a bird’s eye view which is far superior in terms of allowing clarity in regard to thoughts, vs trying to make sense of the activity of thought ‘swirling around in the ether’ (“in your head”). This can be most useful for inspecting the ‘tricky nature’ of Self Referential Thoughts and Subject Object Thoughts.

     

    HOW DOES THIS ALL CHANGE MY EXPERIENCE OF LIFE, AND MY UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY? PLEASE, JUST SPIT IT OUT. JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU’RE REALLY TRYING TO SAY HERE.

    The direct experience can only speak for itself. That is the only reliable testimony. Embrace non-conceptualization. Be where you are, enjoy this everlasting moment. Allow what you are wanting to come to you, to ‘show up’ in this ‘now’.
     

    WHAT DOES THE DREAMBOARD HAVE TO DO WITH THE EMOTIONAL SCALE?

    Writing what you want on your board is expressive, affirmative & validating of, and you could say breathes life into, what you want. There is indeed a Source of this wanting, of so called desire. This ‘Source’ is The Truth. The affirming & expressing, of your wanting, is most connective, so to speak, with ‘your’ source.

     

    This is inherently ‘shadow work’, or, ‘shining the light of awareness’ on any limiting discordant beliefs. Beliefs which sound like ‘I can’t’ are dispelled by Truth.

    These beliefs, while not things or objects in time, will arise to naturally ‘come up and out’, or simply put, naturally be let go - because they are in discord with what is natural, Truth. What might presently seem ‘woo wooo’, or ‘just wishful thinking’ will come to be known & recognized as, the common sense.

     

    Just like with the experience of any relationship, some discordant beliefs are naturally illuminated… so it is with communion, the ‘relationship’ between ‘you and you’. What’s been bothering you, what’s been discordant, will naturally be illuminated, dispelled, and seen through. What’s dispelled & seen through are conceptualizations of yourself, how you feel, and reality. The ‘shift’ from focusing on (unknowingly) believing conceptualizations… to what you are actually feeling - emotions - it a shift from focusing (often exclusively) on thought(s)… to receiving the emotional guidance of, Source. 

    Okay - what you are asking is to do the work basically. I will start from tomorrow to use the dream board and the emotional scale consistently. 
     

    On a pessimistic note: Currently, my selves are like a big giant mess and then there is the unconditional which is independent because it is always unconditional. But this is the life situation or experience that i find myself. I don’t feel great about it but it is what it is and all i can do is move on. It is not that i have not felt like this before and i am positive it will pass and one day i will feel like this again. Before i blame my mother now non duality tomorrow someone else. I definitely excepted more out of non - duality in exchange it is just a good story and the unconditional which is to be realized yet this realization is pretty useless one - in my case even more confusing + doesn’t change anything if the work is not put in using in our case the emotional scale, dreambord, mediation.
     

     

     

    How do you know when you are doing something that you love?

    in The Path

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    19 minutes ago, Loop said:

    @nurthur11

     

    Simply put, I am talking about noticing the difference between your intention towards what seems to be going on, & the thought about what is going on. Intention is like a feeling that is pulling you somewhere, setting an intention is really just shifting focus to the feeling that yes I want this, and then just letting that feeling take you into vibrating with the desire. The thoughts bout doing what you love can be let go of, Knowing is just feeling the heart, feeling the Love that you are. The feeling ‘knows’ you are always vibrating towards your passions. 

     

    The problem with me is that when I enjoy, prefer, like something it is instantly and to it is very hard to dislike it. I would have to have a mega reason which is mega vivid(obvious).

     

    For example, there are persons that I love and not love regardless of how bad or good they are too me. This is not apparent on my experience - which makes me frustrated, because it is unpredictable. I would love to feel this feeling with all people but it doesn't come. @PhilWriting about it definitely helps but not so much on the new things that I will love or being able to channel love on things that I want to love. 

    How do you know when you are doing something that you love?

    in The Path

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    On 1/4/2023 at 3:49 PM, Mandy said:

    @nurthur11 Don't attribute things/people/circumstances as being the cause of the feeling, but recognizing the feeling for yourSelf.

     

    On 1/4/2023 at 8:08 PM, Phil said:

    That’s kind of a tricky framing. I’d start more simply…

    What do you enjoy?

    What do you like?

    What do you prefer?

     

    Those would be decent indicators. 

    @Mandy I understand what you mean. @PhilMuch practical framing, thank you!

     

    How do you know when you are doing something that you love?

    in The Path

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    15 hours ago, Loop said:

    You are always doing what you want really, might just be distortions from thoughts believed that make it seem like you aren’t & also make it seem like you can‘t do the thing you really want to do. I would ask yourself why you ever got into spirituality, or working on yourself. What were you really looking for? As in the searching for is you doing what you love already, and noticing that is noticing the Flow. 
     

    Good way to put it is, look at everything as the Art, then you will naturally creatively flow towards manifesting the activities you want to do, as well as learning to enjoy everyday survival. This is really what everyone wants I feel, to love doing the dishes/ taking out the trash, and to flow into your arts/ passions.

     

    The more this deepens, the more it seems Source just takes out the trash for you, and flows towards your love, your art, for you. ❤️

     

    I don’t know what you are saying - maybe because i have not slept at all.
     

    Can you love taking drugs?  One can love the process of taking drugs but not the hangover part. But this love cannot be pointed in experience. One i believe can lose this love at times. 
     

    @Mandy 

    How can one stop at the feelings while loving something? 

    Your true face.

    in The Path

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    5 hours ago, Forza21 said:

    In experience, you never see your own face. 
    You need to „borrow” your face while looking at „other”.   

    Once you get it, you fell in love with everyone. Its The only face you actually see. Face of someone who’s right infront of you. 

     

    Make sure that face is happy. Make your loved one’s happy. 
     

    much love❤️❤️❤️😍
     

     

    You cant feel your face? 

    Dealing with anxiety and trauma

    in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition

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    6 minutes ago, Cathal said:

    It's a practice you will spend time developing and it's especially tough to get the ball rolling, but i have done it and seen myself transform, there's many things you can also do to lets say give support to your non-reactivity, it was actually at the core of how the Buddha taught anapanasati, to introduce the gladenning of the mind - to actively relax bodily sensations that arise, it is not an aversion but completely facing it and relaxing it, you are taking control - it transforms the habit of tensing up with anxiety which only aggrevates and prolongs it, the more you surrender to what arises and let things be the way they are, over time you will see a radical transformation

     

    Thank you very much for this response. It sounds very promising - I am out of hope, especially today.

     

    How do you suggest to do the practice? Is it like a mindfulness practice?

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