nurthur11
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13 hours ago, Mandy said:15 hours ago, nurthur11 said:
I don’t know how to meditate. Nope i don’t meditate. My diet is good and sleeping is decent but i have intense anxiety and depression. Exercise is going great. I know what i want to do but i am not doing it.
No one really knows how to meditate. Just sit down, cross your legs, (meditate cushion and blanket for under your legs highly recommended) focus on your breath, and watch thoughts that come up like clouds passing by. Start by setting a timer for 5 minutes in 15 is too much. Then work up to 10 and then 15. Take some really deep breaths and let yourself relax. Sometimes you'll yawn a lot. Feels like a nap without the sleepiness and makes the whole day brighter. I like to do it once in the morning and again once around noon.
If you know what to do, what's the next step you can take that feels good?
Okay i did 5 min and is good for contemplation - it feel i feel good when i get support from others. When someone says your doing good i tend to become like them.
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14 hours ago, Phil said:
There’s no separate, or second, or finite & limited self.
Where is the state? How’d you find it & get inside of it initially?
Is feeling relying that those interpretations are true?
How do you feel when you imagine telling someone they are doing bad?
And what does feeling say about that thought?
How does the exact opposite thought feel?
If you could be gainfully employed with absolute certainty for the rest of your life, but could never feel happiness - would you?
Why or why not?
How do you know that’s absolutely true?
What is other than yourself?
That state is like getting drunk, getting tired and angry.
Feeling is relying that those interpretations are false.
I feel bad telling someone else they are doing bad. The exact positive thought feels bad too.
If you could be gainfully employed with absolute certainty for the rest of your life, but could never feel happiness - would you?
Why or why not?
Yes i would because i would have a secured source of income. Of course it will depend if i am making enough to live a life.
I dont know that that is absolutely true but i based my opinion on the people around me.
Other than myself is other people, animals, objects etc.
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2 hours ago, Loop said:
Pain is a distinction you are making, what is there without the label? Feel it out. Feeling around it first if going straight into it is too intense. Where is the feeling?
Pain just feels bad thats why i avoid it. I have pain in my leg for example, it comes and goes, when it comes i feel myself avoiding it - distracting myself, ignoring it. I feel myself habitually getting away from it.
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44 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@nurthur11 Meditating everyday? How is your diet? Any caffeine use? Lemon balm and ashwagandha are great to help take the effects of a good diet and quitting caffeine ever further. Exercise helps even more. From there you're set up for success to look at the thoughts, examine the assumptions behind the anxiety. What do you really want to do that you're afraid of doing? Can you push the bounds of that, with love and patience for yourself? What are your fears? Have you written them down, listed them out? Where do you feel them in the body?
I don’t know how to meditate. Nope i don’t meditate. My diet is good and sleeping is decent but i have intense anxiety and depression. Exercise is going great. I know what i want to do but i am not doing it.
Yes I can start loving and have patience for myself.
56 minutes ago, Mandy said:What do you mean your body is in a state of trauma? What was this workout?
I feel the body pains and the psychological pains. The memory of how it felt to exercise - deal with everyone(faces, moods, feelings), how my body felt to pain, how pain felt differently in my body when other were looking(it was intensified) and how this pain remains.
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Yes, but like this is hard to sleep and feel the trauma. I can see this now - after a heavy workout my entire body is in a state of trauma but it cant express like i am avoiding pain. I choose not to feel pain.
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18 hours ago, Loop said:
The Process is so simple it really cannot be explained, only experienced for itself.
A simple way of putting it is to just trust the guidance of Feeling.
Is there a me & my feelings?
Can you find the seam where they are apart?
What are you trying to ride or not let ride you?
Embrace Not-Knowing, it will always be closer then absolutely any idea you have about what you are.Ok so just put my mind in the feelings? I feel happier already. There is me and my feeling for me and i prefer it this way for the moment 🙂 .
Right now I am feeling unsure 🫤 my feeling experience is like a hole with stuff in it. Now i am feeling impatience. Now i am feeling like i am oversharing or too much for others.
Thank you, Loop 💙
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Sorry i forgot these questions:
Is there a me & my feelings?
Yes.
Can you find the seam where they are apart?
Yes like a blank space.
What are you trying to ride or not let ride you?
Let the feelings or the overall mood control me.
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1 hour ago, Loop said:
The Process is so simple it really cannot be explained, only experienced for itself.
A simple way of putting it is to just trust the guidance of Feeling.
Is there a me & my feelings?
Can you find the seam where they are apart?
What are you trying to ride or not let ride you?
Embrace Not-Knowing, it will always be closer then absolutely any idea you have about what you are.
Embrace Not-Knowing really hit the spot for me.Now when i think of it - its okay to feel the guidance and sometimes to not feel the guidance. The thing with chasing experience is that - we just dont know which one it is haha. We don’t know what is this.
Just think what you are saying: The Process is so simple it really cannot be explained only experienced by itself. This
leaves me in the realm of experience. Now i go search for a process - if it has to be experienced i search it in my experience. Is it in front of me? It should be in front of me its a Process is always there. Now cant i feel it - yes i can but it feels wrong. If i can feel the Process were am I? I am the Process, there is no Process just me no there is only Process. And so on and so on. This is just chasing experience. In the end nothing is solved.
An interesting remark. When i wrote this paragraph i remember what i thought and how i thought myself to be but not my experience.
Sometime is process, sometimes is not. Okay?
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1 hour ago, Loop said:
Let go of the distinction ‘fear’,
Trust the feeling you are labeling,
Allow it to expand, and permeate into everything else.
Is there a self to induce anything?
This just happens automatically, how much are you seeing the Process?
Look for Harmony-Now, embrace the guidance of discord.
I am sensing a Process not so much though i believe it to be positive.
I am trusting my feelings but i am not letting it ride me so to speak.
No there is no self to induce anything. Is hard to say there is no self. Is hard to say there isn’t any self.
Recently, more and more i feel life in continuum rather than me controlling it. This is a weird investigation from my point of view. I still very much like to put my mind around it. Maybe because i am in a spot that feels dangerous or maybe because i like to think it is not under my control.
What do you mean by the Process? Currently the process that i believe in is just be direct with others on how you are feeling about it. But this is very overwhelming.
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Please give me something to think about. Let me know if you have further question’s so you can better understand the situation .
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I am constantly in a state of anxiety. This is mostly happening when others critique me or if i think my future is in peril.
Is this self induced?
An example would be if you say i am doing bad at my work then i think my career is at stake so i get anxious. Eventually and quickly i get traumatized. How do i let go of this fear and the associated everything that comes along with it?
How do i find and learn more about myself? I am generally a very simple guy but i think i am complex. Why have i not noticed myself yet. This is weird.
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3 hours ago, Phil said:
That ‘echo’ might be more of a discordant thought loop felt.
Maybe all writing, doing, etc is already pure effortless spontaneity ….
and sometimes there are thoughts believed about a ‘doer’ … thoughts which feel discordant… to more of an infinite magician, feeling… than a ‘separate self’… a “doer”.
This is hard to realize. Do you understand?
Though I am starting to get it. Super useful insight! Wp! Very good way of explaining it.
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1 minute ago, James123 said:
YO. This is it. That's it.
ok ok
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7 minutes ago, James123 said:
Whatever the problem you have hold it, if you get a fewer, tooth pain etc. Will your hate still stay? Or you will forget everything and just complain about the pain?
I don't know man loving for me feels like a commitment. You go and love everyone and then 10 min later you don't love them. Then is sort of like mixed feelings.
It would be interesting to try to love without attachment. But also attachment feels good. Like some people who don't remember relationships dynamics - I was like this for a long time.
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On 11/18/2022 at 11:12 PM, Blessed2 said:
Everyone is waiting for eternity but the Shaman asks: "how about today?"
Today does not exist but i understand what you mean so you are fine. 👍
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On 11/19/2022 at 5:49 PM, LovingPresence said:
Life isn’t about how to survive the storm, it’s about how to dance in the rain ❤️🕺🏼💃
👎 ⛔️
Life is about surviving the storm and dancing in the rain. Corrected!
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On 11/18/2022 at 10:51 PM, James123 said:
Guys, don waste your time to be right, correct, criticize, gossip or external expectations. Of course, the realization of the truth is always important. However, let me tell you something, even if you realize or not you are always what you are, you won't be able to get out, sooner or later it will find you. Just take an advice, believe me from nothing FROM NOTHING, you can now feel, smell , touch and being existed. After when you die, it is the end. Life is too short, don't waste your time, go hug people, tell the love ones that you love them, live your every moment as your last moment, there is no tomorrow, and believe me you are in heaven now, fucking heaven. You breathe the air that you don't even see, your body is existed by trillion of cells, you have no control whatsoever. Therefore, be free, know that nothing is under your control, surrender, surrender, do not regret when you about to die you waste your time with bullshit. Anything except Love is wasting the time/life. Be easy, go easy, don't hold, burn in love, get mixed with air. Don't hold, don't be solid, be liquid, flow like a water, before it is too late.
Sending some hate your way! ❤️ Sorry i dont feel so loving right now.
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2 hours ago, Phil said:
🙂
Maybe one Friday later in the afternoon, and another noonish Saturday…?
For me noon works super well I will also try to attend the noonish Saturday.
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4 minutes ago, nurthur11 said:
Okay i have some points to share:
heaven and hell is consciousness braking apart (it has to he this way), first consciousness is one ☝️ then it breaks 😛
one can develop a conscious mindset not that is actually conscious just that it believes in conscious
conscious is not the end story when it comes down to humans beings things
conscious has is own reflexes so to speak and is needed to heal and function in order that you feel healthy
@Someone here your experience is the details of <when conscious is doing its work> similar details maybe less vivid can be seen without whatever you have taken
more and more i start to believe that observing conscious doing it s work is kind of feel good habit
Conscious has to sleep instantly. This shift was always hard for me because i was afraid to go from experience to no experience; felt like a fear of missing out thing.
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Okay i have some points to share:
heaven and hell is consciousness braking apart (it has to he this way), first consciousness is one ☝️ then it breaks 😛
one can develop a conscious mindset not that is actually conscious just that it believes in conscious
conscious is not the end story when it comes down to humans beings things
conscious has is own reflexes so to speak and is needed to heal and function in order that you feel healthy
@Someone here your experience is the details of <when conscious is doing its work> similar details maybe less vivid can be seen without whatever you have taken
more and more i start to believe that observing conscious doing it s work is kind of feel good habit
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2 hours ago, Phil said:
Water can’t be wet.
It cant be this simple...what when we dive ourself into someone else? Can we fall in love?
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On 10/1/2022 at 4:36 PM, Phil said:
The truth is you are never going to be happy because it simply, fundamentally & literally is not possible. You’re never going to be aware. You’re never going to be conscious. You’re never going to be awake. You will never actually be kind, selfless, loving, whole or good because it’s impossible.
No I don't believe you. Why? Why you will never going to be happy, aware, conscious, awake ? Why is this impossible?
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2 hours ago, Blessed2 said:
What's the eyes for? 😁😁
Hop into the conversation!
What to say. Its hard to know for sure but it is super fascinating how pi so accurately describes the “function” of awareness/source. It could be that it is the representation of the source mathematically. Basically, as i understand pi represent or describes the wholeness in every “sequence” - there are some tales that pi was used to build the pyramids, when you look at them they seem pretty whole in their own.
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On 11/9/2022 at 6:14 PM, Someone here said:
Maybe you don't like how you look ..you are too skinny or too fat or you don't like how big your nose is or you don't like how small your dick is . or whatever..you don't like your physical appearance..or you are struggling to get laid ..or stuck in a cycle of addiction..or you don't like your personality traits .
How can one accept oneself unconditionally?
@Philwould be a great YT episode.
Can you accept yourself unconditionally?
Dealing with anxiety and trauma
in Nonduality, Consciousness, Awakening, Enlightenment, Self-Recognition
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@Philyour saying to assume that everything is fine with myself and try to figure out life from that. All states are fine, self is inconceivable.
Smth like this?