Robed Mystic

You have no soul sir. Truly. I'm not trying to be mean here but get a life. I haven't been on here for over a month and I make a single post and you almost immediately come back with a sort of sick response. I'm not sure whether to hug you or hit you honestly. Or perhaps I should just shake my head in disbelief. Either way - I love you bud.

I'm talking about the death row ones so it goes beyond just violent criminals but it's in that arena. Murderers and rapists.

The only one I like is guinea pigs for scientific study. But I don't know if this would be enough. Giving them a house isn't really good. They would just foil dangerous missions. Underground cities...please elaborate? We are talking the worst of the worst here ~ so would you want them wielding any type of power?

What's me precisely?

Lol. 🙂

Those are all pretty silly - just saying. Like for example we would actually give violent criminals a whole state to themselves. Come on...

Hmm...in most cases I would agree but there are situations where the individual is better off simply not on the planet. They are beyond all rehabilitation and are just pure evil. You can't just keep shifting them around to different prisons - its better to just remove them and then save space for those that can be rehabilitated.

It cannot be disproven. So I find that fact interesting in of itself. Maybe you should explore this through spiritual practices to discover what is true. It is highly plausible that all there is to reality is what is in your direct experience. But this is dismissed by society at large, mostly because of fear of worldviews that contradict the worldview that has been taken as true by our society.

Do you believe in the death penalty?

Not yet. Sorry took a long break from here.

Let's be careful here - you are Love, God, and Infinity - and not a separate self - all 4 are identical. Notice, there are 4 realizations or awakenings in this sentence. There is also a 5th - it is Nothingness. So let's not omit that. But i am not telling you to believe me, I am telling that you can discover these realizations for yourself, through direct experience - by sitting in deep meditation after experiencing deep, suffering. We were talking on the other forum earlier about Tolle, well Tolle's awakenings were about the same as mine. They came after deep suffering. Tell me about your enlightenment Phil. I would like to know if you don't mind sharing it with me. I am not saying you haven't had direct God realization, because I don't know. I know that you throw a lot of concepts out here all the time, so I'm just trying to get an understanding of where you are coming from.

There is someone saying it - but also pointing you to the direct realization of it. Technically, God incarnated into human form is "saying" to you that false spirituality is a bunch of concepts/beliefs. This is mostlly found here, or in a house of worship (religion) This place is no different than a house of religion. They say it is supposed to be the house of God, but it is not the house of God. It is the house where your mind will be filled with a bunch of beliefs/concepts/religion. True spirituality, again, is the DIRECT realization of GOD, by BECOMING GOD. I'm not sure how much clearer i can make this for you.

False spirituality - Concept/Beliefs/Religion. So saying Inifinite unconditional love is all there is, and that there are no separate selves, is false spirituality. Its not true spirituality. True spirituality is the direct realization that Love is all there is - you can say "infinite unconditional love" But I prefer just Love, Divine Love. God's Love.

I mean did you have any interest in God when you were growing up? Did you ever wonder if God existed or not, or did you not care? As for what Truth, I am talking about discovering the answer to that question. Whether God exists or not. Of course, if you can't see God, then God "appears" hidden. Most of us I think, wondered about it. I wanted to always beleive there was a God, even though I couldn't see it. Maybe you didn't share the same curiousity for it that I did - I just ifgured it was something that most of us wondered about early in life. What Truth - well - what if there WAS an answer, a direct answer to that question, as to whether God exists or not. You see, right now, there are a lot of "answers" but those answers are not going to be "direct". In other words, they will be something that you read. Like maybe this post - but nonetheless, there is something in this post that will be a pointer to direct Truth. I'm not "giving you the answer" I'm pointing you to finding the answer for yourself, directly. False Spirituality - Religion/Concept/Beliefs True Spirituality - Direct realization of God, by becoming God. As I said, found via meditation - no mind meditation combined with inquiry in the nature of the self -= - only afterhave being through a period of deep suffering. I realized last night that suffering is not only paramount in awakening, it is absolutely mandatory. I had an enlightennment experience last night and it was beautiful. But it did come after deep suffering.

It's really not any of that - that's not spirituality, that's concept. Spirituality is sitting in no mind - or do nothing meditation, or self inquiry. And then it is God that will come awake - it is mystical and magic - there is no logic to it. When you realize there is no self you will literally die and melt into Infinite Love. So i would start there - with the actuality of things. Just sit in actuality so that you can BE - and realize that you are BEING. That's what leads to enlightenment - not all of these concepts that you have construed about what awakening is. The realization of no self usually comes after a period of deep suffering and then sitting in deep meditation. Once the flood gates are open and you start awakening, you won't even need to meditate at all - it can just hit you like it did me tonight and you will be drowned in God's love. In your love, because you are God. Not a part of God - you are the whole of God. And i don't mean the ego - i mean what you are behind that.

Forza, there is some really good stuff here, but you have a lot of stuff wrong. Suffering is very powerful - it will bring you to awakening if its channeled as such - combined with mediation. But its not that you see God realization through the lens of the ego. You are not experiencing God realization or having a mystical experience or a direct experience of God. That is the only reason you are saying you are filtering it through the ego. The ego is completely absent during God realization. And once you realize God, you can have further awakenings like the one i just had tonight, because you have already realized that you are Awareness itself or Being itself. The problem is you are building solipsism and idealism into your ideas of awakening. It isn't ike that. You can't conceptualize these things ahead of time, so you are correct. Now, when you actually realize you are God you will realize that you are dreaming everything, but this is liberating and it will be the love of God washing all over you, like I had tonight. It just means you are One with the universe, you are the universe, and you are everything there is. This should follow with waves of bliss and love, so it is not a bad thing. So solipsism and imaginary, they are just words, - reality IS. But it is Consciousness, and you can become aware that it is - but this is because it can't be anything physiscal or objective, because its happening in your Mind. It doesn't happen "outside" of you or objectively. That is indeed something within Mind. Physicality is within Mind, Mind is not within Physicality. That's just something you can become directly aware of. And I mean through Being - but also Being is not something out there, its something within you - you are Being.

@Jonas Long Stop looking at who is online 🙂

i just had an awakening on the forum. its because of you Jonas, And talking about God to Joseph. Not just because of you guys, but it all came together 🙂 it washed over me. It is still washing over me. '

God can't be described. All the labels we want to put on God, God surpasses. So we could say Ifinite, because as soon as you imagine the power of God you have only touched the surface. Now, as i said on Actualized earlier today, there aren't levels of Consciousness - but when you have a mystical experience of God you may realize it will continue to be deeper and deeper ecstasy and waves of bliss. Deeper and deeper love. Deeper love for yourself as God, and the creator of all of reality. When that realization washes over you - God realization, there is only bliss and love. It makes everything OK again,. The only cost to this is that you are completely alone.

noted.

I'm not trying to instill self doubt - I am just saying it takes meditation. And if you have tried that try it again. Just sit there. As long as it takes.

as soon as we get real you shy away. I'd rather talk to Jonas, at least he has balls.

Those are good questions. By work i just mean sitting in meditation. And, not just sitting in meditation. But doing self inquiry meditation. I'm not dismissing the dream board, i think its great, but it is NOT spirituality. Let's just be clear on that. Spirituality is about finding God, and nothing mnore. And for that it takes getting rid of all of the silly beliefs that you hold about the self - and really just inquiring into the self. Just because I come from Actualized doesn't mean i took psychedelics and now i found God. God isn't found that way. That's why there is still distorted views by Leo on what reality is. He had a super good intuition - probably the best, but he didn't have awakening.

a lame link on a website. I spend enough time here to know its just not taught. Nice try. Be careful of who is in charge here...be really careful.

As far as you know. But maybe I'm the precise opposite. You see - you want to corrupt non-duality all on your own - i I don't have to even do it. Because you have an idea of what non-duality is, and that has become your reality. What's taught here...But tell me this - how many hours have you set in meditation? I would really like to know. Answer with honesty.