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Robed Mystic

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  1. 4 hours ago, Enlightened Cat said:

    Nothing. It's about nothing. This is the thought! Try to see what a thought is about, without thinking! Thoughts simply aren't there until you start thinking they are.

     

    This is like trying to get close to unicorns. You aren't a unicorn hunter. A unicorn hunter exists in the same realm as unicorns; thought. You can't get close to the contents of thought, unless you believe yourself to be inside of a thought.

    Where does "karmic content", and "nucleus of pain" go, when you aren't thinking? Inspect it without thinking.
     

    The thought appears as that. Subsequently, assumptions appear about this thought, and those assumptions are thoughts about the initial thought. The assumption is essentially that the initial thought isn't a thought, but that it actually points to something real. It's a house of thoughts/cards. Sit with that thought and watch it appear and disappear. Notice how the feeling is synonymous with the thought, and disappears with the thought.

    You can't be inside of something you are viewing. You can't read a story while being in the story. 

     

    Anything thought-related, is thought. No exceptions. Trace the thought back. When was it ever, not a thought?

     

    This is a thought. Destroying thoughts is for unicorn hunters. In order to destroy thoughts, you must be thinking. You caught yourself in a catch-22! In order to hunt unicorns, you must be thinking of unicorns!
     

    Watch the theory disappear when you stop thinking of it. Look at moments in your life where there are "lapses" in thoughts or period of "no thought." Like drifting into sleep, or immediately upon waking up. Notice the clarity and peacefulness before thoughts rush in and obstruct. Become obsessed with those moments. Look to observe them and recreate them.

     

    Unicorns can't be understood. Just let them vanish. Understanding is the very perpetuation of unicorns. Understanding is the very perpetuation of said "karma."
     

    Thought is nothing more than imagination.   And what is imagination but illusion.   Love the name by the way.   The enlightened cat represents the animal among us that rises above its culture to find awakening despite - despite all of the negative obstacles that attempt to prevent awakening.   It is the cat the ultimately prevails in finding God.   

  2. On 5/2/2024 at 4:00 AM, ConsciousDreamer666 said:

    It might seem a nonsensical question but I truly wonder.


    What really is a thought? Is it awareness but in a limited way? 

     

    Because I have never 'seen' a thought.

     

    Is just like a conceptual compression in consciousness.

     

    Something really weird. 

    When I had my awakening I realized that all thought is illusory- the only thing that is "real" is Being.  Being or isness is first order.   Thought is second order.  Now one could say that Being and thought are one and they would be correct.   But thought is imagination.   And what is the dream?  Its illusory.  You are the dream but first order dictates that you are the dreamer foremost.

  3. On 4/23/2024 at 7:48 PM, Joseph Maynor said:

     

    Your response gets tricky from an advaita vedanta perspective because the ego/mind is that which makes the distinction between subjective and objective.  If there is no ego and no people, then the subjective-objective duality is false.  The Self doesn't become anything; to become implies change and the Self is changeless.

    Vivartavada
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivartavada

    Yes when I meant objectivity I meant something prior to language which is dualistic in nature of course.  The Absolute, if you will.  It is Absolute.  Of course I'm only pointing to it with words  - the words aren't IT.    Now, when back in an egoic state of mind, telling someone else who has experienced God of your experience may have a different experience or description of what it was like then you did.    But "your" Experience is Absolutely Unique...of course it is! Of course it is, because you're God!  

  4. 15 hours ago, Orbran said:

     

     

     

    This reliance on personal validation raises a question: why should one not be skeptical of a spiritual path that requires similar faith to that demanded by organized religions?

    You don't need faith you need curiosity.   That is a key distinction.   Bias - in spirituality or the direct pursuit of Truth- is absent.  Religion requires a preference.  Excellent post.

  5. 15 hours ago, Orbran said:

     

    This reliance on personal validation raises a question: why should one not be skeptical of a spiritual path that requires similar faith to that demanded by organized religions? Both paths ask for trust in the process and suggest that personal experiences can validate their truths. However, many religious claims also hinge on personal experiences that followers find validating.
     

     

    All validation of Truth is ultimately going to be subjective unless you could somehow prove objectivity.  Well - it turns out that becoming a mystic transcends subjectivity into objectivity.   But i guess you have to find out for yourself. 

  6. 15 hours ago, Orbran said:

    The pursuit of enlightenment or a deeper understanding of oneself presents a paradox.

    Indeed.  It is the finite attempting to grasp infinity. 

     

    15 hours ago, Orbran said:

    The pursuit of enlightenment or a deeper understanding of oneself presents a paradox. In this pursuit, one is expected to eventually realize that there is nothing to be sought and that the seeker themselves is part of the illusion. This introduces a paradox that seems to require following a path somewhat blindly to see where it leads—a requirement not unlike those made by various religions.
     

    One could argue that this path is not about blind faith but about validating truths through direct personal experience and continual questioning. However, a significant challenge arises in that this path demands not only a relentless questioning of everything but also necessitates a fundamental change in one’s perception of the external world. While there's a certain appeal to this approach, it undeniably requires a type of commitment and a leap of faith, believing that this shift will lead to something beneficial. This commitment, in my view, parallels the blind adherence to dogma found in traditional religions, as there is no option to leave it out.
     

     

    No that is not true. It is an unbiased inquiry into the nature of self and reality.   An unbiased inquiry. 

  7. On 4/11/2024 at 4:32 PM, WhiteOwl said:

    Clickbait title.

     

    I was talking with a brain-scientist the other day and i was thinking about the blog post about the brain not existing. How do you not seem like a complete douchebag saying that to someone studying the brain for a living?

     

    Its like all this nothingness is making all science completely useless. 

     

    What is the point of science when its all energy and there is no-duality?

    Hehe.  Talking to modern scientists is pretty futile. They are modern materialists.   

  8. 4 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

     

    - Sit down and try to meditate perfectly or become enlightened. 

     

    ?  Try to mediate and become enlightened.   Yeah that's gonna work.

    Look  - your steps leave you failing before you even begin.

    Realize that it's not within your power ? That's really a hopeless attitude.  To acknowledge there is no free will and to place it in the hands or a higher power - well - that defeats you before you have even begun. There are a lot of things within your own power.   Whether they are guided or laid out initially by something higher than you is irrelevant.   

     

  9. On 4/11/2024 at 7:46 AM, Blessed2 said:

     

    Why would anyone be interested in what comes after that "but"?

     

     

    I don't know anything about any of that and I don't really even care honestly.

     

    And I don't really want to see you in my threads either. Everything you say is just Actualized nonsense and a petty facade. It can be felt insantly in the digestive tract.

     

    Until validated in your direct experience don't take anything on faith.  Not even what's said here, though I know you have placed your trust with the people here.   Still - Until it is directly validated by you it's just dogma.  That goes for anything, really.  But I do implore you not to immediately discard my responses simply because they seem to be nonsense.   You never know what is true or not until you find out for yourself.  Until then Actialized and Actuality really aren't any different.   They are just fountains of knowledge and you can drink from both.  The water may not taste very different. 

  10. 13 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:

     

    Hmm. Cause that's how it just seems to feel like. Suffering.

     

    It's like a bondage or a prison also in the sense that everything is filtered through the pre-assumption of self. It's like a closed system / logic. All it comes to contact with is set in it's context. Like a matrix.

     

    And it also seems that the fruit it produces haven't been that great.

     

     

     

    Yes but that's the beauty of a finite system.  It has to be that way in order to be finite.  And to be finite comes with attachment, suffering, all of that.  But there's something that is so invaluable here to God - and that is to be able to experience this.  To be in a closed system is what makes reality what it is.  It's what makes it real.  If you bad open access it would actually lose all meaning.   I am going to bring up the video game analogy oniy because it's so good and accurate.  If you had infinite everything, the game would lose all meaning.  You wouldn't have the experience of feeling it's real and making posts like this.

  11. 5 hours ago, Blessed2 said:

     

    Seems to be a thought. An implying of a haver, a doer, a feeler, a thinker etc.

     

    Indeed.  But why look at this as bondage?  It kind of puts a negative connotation on the self.  Even if it's just a thought or a collection of thoughts- or even beyond that - a particular state of Consciousness....why must it be bondage? That it is an illusion?  It's just a particular state of Consciousness in which you as Pure Nothingness incarnates into what you might call a sentient being or an entity behind the eyes.  But all of this is Consciousness shifting states and putting together a very firm and persistent manifestation of a finite being- which of course we know ultimately doesn't exist materially or tangibly - but rather ultimately is some sort of concept.  It's simoly an dea - that is if your worldview of reality is that of reality being Mind.   Why does this have to be bondage?

  12. 1 hour ago, Reena said:

    I think space and time are a distinct phenomenon as proved by physics. Oneness with the present moment can be an illusory experience of stillness. Oneness can be felt but not proved. 

     

    The illusion isn't the Oneness or that which cannot be proved - but rather physics itself.  Keep in mind there may be something that transcends the laws of physics. 

  13. On 3/6/2024 at 3:39 PM, Nadosa said:

    Compulsive situations, for example checking if the door has locked, doubting memory etc. are really well known behaviors experienced. Using emotional guidance and meditation for "reality check", these behaviors stem from emotions of doubt and insecurity. Sometimes I just can't really release or let go and can literally spend a day observing the way I "recapitulate" specific situations thoughts arise about.

    That's the way it always goes and it's really hard to release the temptation. It also manifests in relationships for example.

     

    Maybe you have some advice.

    It's a disorder of the brain and certain triggers can just set off the obsessions and resulting compulsions.  Really there isn't a cure for OCD other than to be aware of your obsessions and not give them attention.  Giving them attention makes them stronger.   Eventually within a few days the obsession you are dealing with diminishes and may dissipate altogether for a long time or until another trigger happens.   But if you can find the strength to just ignore them they get weaker that way and will go away.  But when you feed the obsessions with compulsions it only males them come back worse, until you exhaust yourself.  And it's a lot of wasted time and suffering. 

  14. On 3/6/2024 at 5:54 AM, Blessed2 said:

    "I" is just the thought "I".

     

    It seems like the thought is about me or that the thought "I" is me because that's what the thought implies/creates.

     

    But it's not me. It's just the thought "I".

     

    So self cannot get out of self. It's like a closed system.

     

    And 'within' that thought "I", everything is about I. Like tinted glasses that paints all red. An entire universe is created within that thought "I".

     

    And so you can't get out of it because you're never in it.

     

    It's just innocently picked up at some point and then it overrides everything. Like a brain-parasite that takes hold of you by appearing as if it's you.

     

    But what is the self?

  15. 43 minutes ago, Reena said:

    The perceptual latency is mere milliseconds. That does not make a lot of difference pragmatically.

     

    As regards to non duality, I think it's more transcendental than literal. I think if I look at a chair and call it an umber chair. Another person can look at the same chair and call it a sepia chair. Perception matters, not perceptual latency. Although both perceptions are infinity or parts of the whole and I think this is how non duality appears. It seeks to gain oneness through the amalgamation of perception rather than the separation of it.

     

     

    There's no time.  There's just the mind spinning thoughts.  Time is also one of those thoughts.  If you are able to still the mind enough or merge with the present moment you actually become yourself  - because that's what you are- the present moment - you are IT.

  16. 2 hours ago, ivankiss said:

    @Jonas Long That's kind of the point.

     

    Perceiving = lagging, duality 

    Being = now, oneness 

    Yes ..perceiving or perception is a layer on top of Being.  It is the mind creating layers.   The mind creates self and other and this self then can perceive a so called external world.  If you remove perception (which is basically ego) you get Absolute Truth.  That's why it is said perception is an illusion.  Because the self is an illusion  - or another way of looking at it is it's the dream.

  17. 18 hours ago, Jonas Long said:

    The actual observer cannot observe itself.

    This is most efficient distillation I can think of.  Does this effectively sum it up?

    I would distill it even a step further, thus distilling the act of distillation altogether.

    It cannot grasp itself - it just IS Itself.... it just Is... Further, now remove it, and just...what remains?  

    That's enlightenment in a nutshell yes.  But when the realization happens the observer and the observed collapses and what remains is just ...Isness! 🙂

    Language can't capture it but this is the closest one can get with language.

  18. 1 hour ago, Blessed2 said:

     

    Sometimes thoughts come up that certain people are "hopeless cases". 

     

    But I don't want to think that of others, cause it really just curve balls and bites you in the ass. If there really is someone who is a hopeless cause, it automatically holds the possibility that you could also be a hopeless case.

     

    I'd go with grace-against-all-seeming-odds here. Mad love, mad devotion. I mean we probably both agree that God is infinite.

     

     

    I wonder if anything can per se be removed like that. I mean it sounds logical and rational, but it's not like logic and rationality hasn't ever failed us. 😂

     

    Does death really do anything? Like how physical energy cannot be destroyed.

     

    The thought that some people could be just waste of space is also a curveball and comes back in form of you could be a waste of space.

     

    And again, God is infinite, yes? Then where does this shortage of healing / well-being (rehabilitation) come from? Is there not enough in infinity, even for hopeless cases?

     

    It's a point well taken.   I wouldn't make the leap though, that just because some individuals might be hopeless when it comes to rehabilitation, that this automatically could reflect back on yourself.   But I understand where the thought of this could be derived.   After all, if we are one, then in a sense you are no different than those appearing external to you.  But from another vantage point, we can also say that  oneness has been divided, and that here, in duality, differences can and must exist.   Differences, vast ones, may exist between you and these individuals in both mind and spirit.   But I agree- I would love to hold that mindset that all of mankind can be saved.  But unfortunately my direct experience has proven otherwise.    And with these individuals, I'm not sure that keeping them locked up for decades is beneficial.   Analyzing and enumerating which individuals are and aren't salvageable, however, may seem like a daunting task - but in truth it may not be that difficult to decipher when spending any amount of time with them.  So resources need to be invested into therapy to determine this.  If hope is possible- hope should be provided.  I'm all for that.  But when it is deemed that these individuals will not be able to coexist in society with others - then the decision should be clear.

  19. 51 minutes ago, Orb said:

    😭😭😭😭

     

    How can you do this "work" and not look like a pansy little bitch 😭😭

     

    Gosh I feel like crying all the time and I feel so afraid around people. 😞 

     

    It's clear that I am not the thoughts arising and it's very freeing but this whole "system" is completely at the mercy of itself. 

     

    When it's clear that I am not in the thoughts arising and therefore there aren't any problems, how can I hold back bodily/physical fear around people any longer? I feel like a baby 👶. I want to cry all the time. How the hell am I supposed to work here all day and cry?

     

    There's deeper feelings beyond thought-induced ones that are still triggered and it's not a problem at all but geez, how am I gonna have friends or anything if I'm crying all the time and REALLY feeling fear, jealousy, anger, etc.

    It just means you're getting somewhere.   What you are unlocking is your feminine side.  Let it flow.  Enlightenment is, among other things, about the unity of both the masculine and the feminine attributes- the bringing  together of the strong but also the vulnerable.   In order to reach Enlightenment, from my experience, one has to let go of any predisposition.  And if born a man - it is very easy to fall into the predisposition of being the strong, silent type.  But there is a whole other side.  In order to unify both sides you must be able to embrace feminism- as hard as that may be.  So it's okay to let your emotions out - in fact, wearing them on your sleeve should be congratulated- not demonized. 

  20. 32 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:

    Exactly.  Like you.  I don't want to have you executed, but Im not necessarily opposed to shooting you into space, or deep sea as a test subject to further scientific exploration and more knowledge of the world.  Nobody is so shitty they can't be put to some sort of use.  Seems a waste just to "waste" them. 

    Well that's very kind of you.   I appreciate the mercy shown.  But to me,  I'd prefer death over being  a scientific experiment.   Nothing personal of course. 

  21. 1 minute ago, Jonas Long said:

    The boat we are in includes those on death row, you're the one trying to sink it quicker. 

     

    I admire your enthusiasm and positivism.   In fact- without that - you couldn't exist.   At least not with any piece of mind.    But sadly you must realize there are individuals in this world that are beyond saving.   You cannot simply shift these individuals around.   You must deal with them.

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