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Robed Mystic
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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:
No. You've made this thread all about you and your ideas are not even yours, they're Leo Gura's.You make a ton of assumptions. This is the very trap you sit in. Truth is prior to anyone. And you have fell into the Leo Gura trap. Or whatever you want to call it. You could have just as easily fell into the Sadguru trap or the Rupert Spira trap. But it was Leo.
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2 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
This is controlling conduct. Kissing up then telling him what to think? And don't you deny that! Who says this? Based on what? This has turned into a self-aggrandizing joke. I think we want to help, but a person has to want to take in constructive criticism. We're not helping.Why is an experience of God or that God exists be a joke? What are your thoughts on God? Can you share that with us or will that be in one of your upcoming videos?
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3 minutes ago, WhiteOwl said:
@Robed Mystic Im done putting people on a pedestal anymore no matter the position, especially on the internet.
Then my job is done.
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13 minutes ago, Adeptus Psychonautica said:
Its not animosity Dave, its my honest assessment of you from your behaviour on Actualized and the continuation of that behaviour here. I can appreciate that you might not like hearing this, but that is what you asked for - So don't take the victim mentality.
...now where have I head that before? 😉And to be fair I have seen you say FAR WORSE as part of your bullying over on Actualized, and hey - it was a really fucking long thread 😀
I hope that clears up any confusion around animosity towards you Dave.Noted. By the way, most of your criticism of Leo personally I totally agree with. So I think we may have gotten into words over nothing. And besides, we both have found God. You found God on psychedelics. And don't deny that. You have had experiences of God there. So as I said in the beginning, the non-dual teachings are sound. And you don't dispute that right?
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Just now, Phil said:
I’m not getting the connection. What does (1) have to do with (2)? Thanks.
Not two.
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8 minutes ago, Phil said:
This is the ‘you’re not awake unless you love Hitler’ rhetoric. Intentional spiritual confusion, problem and solution marketing.
There are no separate selves, no awakened person. That’s enlightenment. No one becomes enlightened, there is already no one.
Well there is God. Unless you are going to say there is no God. In which we shall disagree. And because of Oneness...well...
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7 minutes ago, Phil said:
“My primary function in administrating and controlling this forum is to never allow it to devolve into a cult or a set of false teachings. If you do not trust my leadership in this regard, please leave now because this point is non-negotiable for me.”.
Welcome!
Thank you sir glad to be here. Hope to contribute in some fashion 🙂
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1 hour ago, Adeptus Psychonautica said:
I am meeting you head on by stating exactly what I think of your contribution here, so all the respect you are due has been given - if you feel that level of respect is less than what you would like then perhaps look at your behaviour and make the necessary adjustments.
I am guessing from your tone that you are Dave the Inliytened1 moderator from Actualized? If so then I am happy to recap my opinion on you... you know.. coz you want me to meet you head on...out of respect.
You have demonstrated time and time again that you are an immature insecure bullying manbaby with an over inflated ego, who has no business moderating any kind of discussion because you are a living embodiment of the dunning kruger effect within the spirituality community. The idea that you have any intuition around "awakening" with which you feel qualified to judge others is laughable.
Was that head on enough for you mate? 😀Wow mate - where.did all this animosity come from? From one thread on Actualized? I'm not even sure what so say here.
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2 minutes ago, Adeptus Psychonautica said:
My intuition is that you are delusional, and that you manifest none of what you claim within your behaviour, and I doubt your intuition could help you find your arse with both hands. If your idea of enlightenment is to be an obnoxious turd then you can keep it mate.
Given the quality of your comments here, the bad faith approach you have to conversation, and that you don't have anything interesting to say other than repeating the lazy slop you have been pre-programmed with, I think its fair for me to disregard whatever you have to say, and I would encourage others to do the same.
Rob - I enjoy your channel too. Let's not be harsh. We have spoke in person as well. If you believe I am delusional regarding knowing who is awake perhaps you are right. That's the beauty of intuition - it is left unopened for you to imagine.
I always met you head on. Please respect me the same way.
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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:
I think you should probably stand down a little bit in your posts to this thread as will I. This is not helping. Become a watcher instead of trying to drive the train. Be a white belt. Be a beginner. Once the beginner thinks he's a teacher many things go astray. This will be my last post to you in this thread.Sorry that something is triggering you bud. I'm not sure exactly what it is but if you want me to stand down I won't.
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3 minutes ago, Faith said:
I meant @Joseph Maynor. i enjoy his videos. Well. To be honest i don't make it through them completely but i'm watching. I'm tuning in. Keep it up bud.
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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:
Try not mechanically responding 30 seconds after every post and then come speak to us about lack of bias. You don't have lack of bias. You're trying to dominate this thread and have been for some time now. That's bias! Very strong bias coming from you -- the person who defined awakening as lack of bias. This is the kind of crazymaking I would expect from Leo Gura.Go to sleep. It's early in Cali isn't it ? 🙂
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1 minute ago, Joseph Maynor said:
When the student becomes the teacher this is the kind of scenario that is created. It's called spiritual ego.
That is your bias. Once again.
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4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
I disagree. I think your ego might be a little too attached to "being awake." That was his point too. Someone who is awake is not always telling people they are, they don't have to. They got it. They don't need to let everybody know they got it, if that makes sense.
. There are no set rules on being enlightened. You can be enlightened and be a total asshole. Don't think an awakened person has to be a certain way. Non-duality is a total lack of bias. Notice that.
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4 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said:
So you think you know who is enlightened or not? No offense man, but that's a dodgy game when you start getting into that kind of labeling. You don't know whose enlightened or not and that was his point.
One can use their intuition if it strong enough. Yes i can usually tell immediately.
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11 minutes ago, Serenity said:
How could someone who makes such beautiful videos on wisdom, love, conscious politics, self-deception, survival, delivery, or the nature of truth be wrong? I
Not be wrong. Be human.
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3 minutes ago, Whimsical said:
I was never so much affected by his teachings in his videos, I enjoyed listening to his stuff pre-covid. I liked the ones about society, spiral dynamics, self love, chapters and phases and many others. So this is not about his teachings per say. My grievances lie with how he conducts himself online. when I joined the forum and saw how he speaks on there it changed my opinion of him, and then listening to him wasn’t as nice anymore because it felt too fake, but then at the same time I feel like the content changed and it wasn’t the same.
Of course I was triggered reading misogynistic comments about women, In a forum dominated by men. It did make me look within myself but If anything that is what gave me more victim mentality because it made me more insecure.
Interesting. I never looked at it from this perspective- being a man on the forum (of course I wouldn't) . But yes I noticed this too. His episodes are so different from how he acts on the forum.. but again I bring you back to the human condition and the ego. When he does his episodes he is in a certain mode and state of consciousness. When he is in the forum he is cosplaying as someone else. He is acting his ego out.
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10 minutes ago, Whimsical said:
I do, and I left the forum a while back. But since this is what the thread is about we are all having an open discussion about it. It’s not about victim mentality, it’s about saying what we want to say, getting things off chest so to speak. It’s good to talk about it rather than just brushing everything under the rug. Clearly other people have felt the same and noticed the same things, so why shouldn’t we be able to talk about it with eachother in a safe space? all of us have been affected in one way or another by actualized. Not saying everything was bad, I learned a lot. Eventually the thread will fizzle and there will be nothing left to say 🙂
Everything in life is a learning experience. And everything fizzles into the past - sadly. We cannot hold onto the present moment as much as we may try. Because we are the present moment itself. We are Infinity. I understand that many of you were negatively impacted by Actualized - but you have to ask yourself why that was. Perhaps you weren't ready for the teachings and should have turned it off. Or perhaps you needed to look within yourself. No one can tell, but I can tell you this - the world will throw itself at you with the force of a planet. And you will be thrust into it. And if you allow yourself to be imprinted by that - then thats on you. You then have to fix it. But you have perfect control over what you take in. You always did. You just decided to give it away
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2 minutes ago, Whimsical said:
Leader or not, he’s an influencer, whichever way you want to put it. He has a platform and is guiding and influencing people. I think to a certain degree he tries to be responsible in certain areas. But when it comes to women and relationships it all goes out the window. He talks about open mindedness but outright tells his followers ‘not to listen to women’ and refuses to engage in conversations with female members in regards to dating.
Once again. You as the viewer need to look beyond this. There is no such thing as an influencer unless you allow it. It doesn't matter how big his platform is or how many followers he has. None of that matters. You have your own mind and no one else can tell you how to use it. So don't take the victim mentality.
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3 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
What a slimy fucking response. Imagine someone calling themselves "teacher" or "someone who's here to help you awaken" saying this when confronted about arrogance. 🤦
This is exactly what I mean. Disgusting. Manipulative. Get the fuck out.
Oneness is Oneness. If they are teaching Oneness they must take care to not shun anything. Otherwise they are not teaching Oneness or non-duality.
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13 minutes ago, Whimsical said:
Easier said than done. When most of the people following and looking for advice are generally people without direction, good role models, or just people who feel they aren’t enough. These are also the types of people who will be easily influenced by someone who shows themselves as an authority. .
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If you are going to put yourself in a position of authority and guidance to others, and show off your shadow side, then you are going to attract people who resonate with your shadow. No wonder that dating forum attracts incelology and redpillers , because that’s the vibe Leo puts out. He talks in the same way then when confronted on it, he gaslights his way out of it, or he will tell others off for speaking the same way he did.
I remember once a member made a post with all of the misogynistic quotes Leo has said before on the forum. His response was ‘context’ as if that made all those things he said ok, because of the context it was said at the time.
He's not a leader yet. He's working on that.
His brilliance shines bright when shining on Truth. He has a brilliant mind when it comes to articulating Truth and psychedelics showed him these Truths far beyond or prior to when he was ready as a human being. The only reason was his pure undaunting desire and quest for Truth. But he is not yet a leader and I don't think he ever claimed to be
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4 minutes ago, Blessed2 said:
Lol
I've listened to people like you for years. I know the game you play and I won't go down with you.
You don't have understanding or awakenings. All I see is petty arrogance. The moment people stop believing you, you have nothing left.
One who is One - who is God - cannot shun arrogance. For they are One. They would be turning their back on themselves.
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4 minutes ago, Ges said:
Maybe. Why do you care?
The point is that Leo breaks the guidelines all the time, and the mods just nod along, justify, or at best remain silent. He is literally the biggest jerk on his own forum. But to his loyal mods, he's the almighty God, and so here we are.
This is why you don't idolize spiritual teachers.
Now- you will find in life there are double standards everywhere. It is unfair but it is the way of the world because of the ego's selfishness.
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On 3/28/2022 at 2:10 PM, Forza21 said:
Consciousness is everything there is, so it's one. We can call it energy, God, Brahman, or whatever fits better to you.
Reports from that state (from example during psychedelic trip) are mostly terrifying, and described as cosmic absolute loneliness. I've been in this place too.
But i wonder - is loneliness a human thing, the product of undissolved ego? isn't consciousness before ANY feelings?
If consciousness is SELFLESS, and PURE LOVE, can it feel loneliness?
For example, many Vedanta guru's describes God's realization ONLY as pure bliss. ( as opposed to those on psychedelic trip, which are mostly rapid). If one's take time to be on spiritual path for DECADES, when there's also helping others, rituals, devotion, it all dissolve ego, and you become more selfless. Maybe that's why?
What do you think?God is everything. It can feel loneliness because it is One. And it can feel together because it is all things. It is how God wants to look at things. It is in God's perspective.
My thoughts of Leo and actualize.org. What do you think?
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There is no Leo Gura. There is only Infinity.