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Robed Mystic
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3 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:
There aren't any murderers or rapists, really. Same options.
There aren't? Ok.
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5 minutes ago, A Tim said:
The one who could be rehabilitated, as opposed to all the "others," I believe.
Let's be optimists 😀
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1 minute ago, Phil said:
You have no soul sir. Truly. I'm not trying to be mean here but get a life. I haven't been on here for over a month and I make a single post and you almost immediately come back with a sort of sick response. I'm not sure whether to hug you or hit you honestly. Or perhaps I should just shake my head in disbelief. Either way - I love you bud.
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2 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:
The assumption about "the worst of the worst" is pure concept, doesn't mean shit. Same with "power".
I'm talking about the death row ones so it goes beyond just violent criminals but it's in that arena. Murderers and rapists.
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3 minutes ago, Robed Mystic said:
Those are all pretty silly - just saying. Like for example we would actually give violent criminals a whole state to themselves. Come on...
The only one I like is guinea pigs for scientific study. But I don't know if this would be enough. Giving them a house isn't really good. They would just foil dangerous missions. Underground cities...please elaborate? We are talking the worst of the worst here ~ so would you want them wielding any type of power?
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2 minutes ago, Phil said:
That’s you!
What's me precisely?
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1 minute ago, Phil said:
That’s you!
Lol. 🙂
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1 minute ago, Jonas Long said:
Read my original list of 10 better ideas than what we currently have for violent criminals, give them one of those.
Those are all pretty silly - just saying. Like for example we would actually give violent criminals a whole state to themselves. Come on...
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5 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:
Of course not
Hmm...in most cases I would agree but there are situations where the individual is better off simply not on the planet. They are beyond all rehabilitation and are just pure evil. You can't just keep shifting them around to different prisons - its better to just remove them and then save space for those that can be rehabilitated.
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On 4/1/2023 at 4:05 PM, ConsciousDreamer666 said:
This place: Perception, Colours, sounds, etc.... Basically, that which I have always called 'my experience'.
Maybe it is, maybe 'this place' and 'moment' called 'my experience' its actually the whole of reality. Everything! There is nothing 'outside' of this. Because that 'outside' its a thought.
It cannot be disproven. So I find that fact interesting in of itself. Maybe you should explore this through spiritual practices to discover what is true. It is highly plausible that all there is to reality is what is in your direct experience. But this is dismissed by society at large, mostly because of fear of worldviews that contradict the worldview that has been taken as true by our society.
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5 minutes ago, Jonas Long said:
Also, I still think we should do reparations for slavery. First let's do all that stuff, and then see how big a problem violent criminality even is anymore.
Do you believe in the death penalty?
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On 2/29/2024 at 7:31 AM, Orb said:
Have you seen my thread on spiritual experiences? 😬😁
Not yet. Sorry took a long break from here.
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4 minutes ago, Phil said:
So love, God, I am is not infinite then. There is also someone saying, pointing to a you, incarnation, humans, form, here, a house of religion, places, they which also say, houses of God & houses which are not of God, a you and a you’s mind… and these are false spirituality… and God is something a you can become, and there is an I which isn’t sure how much clearer This can be made for a you.
Let's be careful here - you are Love, God, and Infinity - and not a separate self - all 4 are identical. Notice, there are 4 realizations or awakenings in this sentence. There is also a 5th - it is Nothingness. So let's not omit that. But i am not telling you to believe me, I am telling that you can discover these realizations for yourself, through direct experience - by sitting in deep meditation after experiencing deep, suffering. We were talking on the other forum earlier about Tolle, well Tolle's awakenings were about the same as mine. They came after deep suffering. Tell me about your enlightenment Phil. I would like to know if you don't mind sharing it with me. I am not saying you haven't had direct God realization, because I don't know. I know that you throw a lot of concepts out here all the time, so I'm just trying to get an understanding of where you are coming from.
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13 minutes ago, Phil said:
So there is Love / Divine Love / God’s love … and … ‘someone saying’, and that ‘saying’ is what false spirituality is?
‘Infinite’ would be something a you is saying, and as an I prefers just love… that’s false spirituality?
So true spirituality is essentially an I’s preference?
There is someone saying it - but also pointing you to the direct realization of it. Technically, God incarnated into human form is "saying" to you that false spirituality is a bunch of concepts/beliefs. This is mostlly found here, or in a house of worship (religion) This place is no different than a house of religion. They say it is supposed to be the house of God, but it is not the house of God. It is the house where your mind will be filled with a bunch of beliefs/concepts/religion.
True spirituality, again, is the DIRECT realization of GOD, by BECOMING GOD. I'm not sure how much clearer i can make this for you.
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1 hour ago, Phil said:
In accordance with true & false spirituality, is this true or false;
infinite unconditional love is all there is, there are no separate selves already.
False spirituality - Concept/Beliefs/Religion.
So saying Inifinite unconditional love is all there is, and that there are no separate selves, is false spirituality.
Its not true spirituality.
True spirituality is the direct realization that Love is all there is - you can say "infinite unconditional love" But I prefer just Love, Divine Love. God's Love.
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2 hours ago, Blessed2 said:
I'm kind of lost as to what exactly is it you're trying to say.
What does this has to do with anything?
What truth? Are you saying there's like a hidden truth, such as the earth is actually flat and the government is hiding it?
It's hard to decipher what you're trying to say. What answer to what? What more?
Can you just simply present what true and false spirituality are?
I mean did you have any interest in God when you were growing up? Did you ever wonder if God existed or not, or did you not care?
As for what Truth, I am talking about discovering the answer to that question. Whether God exists or not. Of course, if you can't see God, then God "appears" hidden.Most of us I think, wondered about it. I wanted to always beleive there was a God, even though I couldn't see it.
Maybe you didn't share the same curiousity for it that I did - I just ifgured it was something that most of us wondered about early in life.
What Truth - well - what if there WAS an answer, a direct answer to that question, as to whether God exists or not.
You see, right now, there are a lot of "answers" but those answers are not going to be "direct". In other words, they will be something that you read.
Like maybe this post - but nonetheless, there is something in this post that will be a pointer to direct Truth. I'm not "giving you the answer" I'm pointing you to finding the answer for yourself, directly.
False Spirituality - Religion/Concept/Beliefs
True Spirituality - Direct realization of God, by becoming God. As I said, found via meditation - no mind meditation combined with inquiry in the nature of the self -= - only afterhave being through a period of deep suffering. I realized last night that suffering is not only paramount in awakening, it is absolutely mandatory.
I had an enlightennment experience last night and it was beautiful. But it did come after deep suffering.
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4 hours ago, Joseph Maynor said:
I have my own theory. It's my theory. I have my own ideas about spiritual enlightenment and the path. I don't try to hide that. I think one must be integrous and original in equal measure as a creator. You can't mind-meld with someone and get your spirituality. There's a tiny you in there that won't have that. You gotta be an original at some point and on some level in this work. And you also need to be able to hear beyond yourself. There should be an ability to sense what is needed when, to know when to do what -- it's a social sense of knowing, a Feminine sense of knowing. That's the part that the knowing-oriented Masculine often misses. There's deep feeling behind this stuff too. There's a reason for the soft, the small, the humble, the quiet, the assisting, as well as all the Masculine qualities that are the reverse of those. Don't miss out on the fun of creation! People get so stuck on truth they forget they have a choice to have fun too. Once you loosen up, you can have fun playing with archetypes and forms. It depend where you are on the path. You don't need to warehouse so much in your shadow. It's not necessary. One you have it, you have it, you don't need to keep worshiping the same thing your whole life. Get on with it! Make a goal and take the fun venture to explore that journey! I'm speaking to myself too because I can and would be happy meditating all day long if I didn't force myself to find interest in doing more than that.It's really not any of that - that's not spirituality, that's concept. Spirituality is sitting in no mind - or do nothing meditation, or self inquiry. And then it is God that will come awake - it is mystical and magic - there is no logic to it. When you realize there is no self you will literally die and melt into Infinite Love. So i would start there - with the actuality of things. Just sit in actuality so that you can BE - and realize that you are BEING. That's what leads to enlightenment - not all of these concepts that you have construed about what awakening is. The realization of no self usually comes after a period of deep suffering and then sitting in deep meditation. Once the flood gates are open and you start awakening, you won't even need to meditate at all - it can just hit you like it did me tonight and you will be drowned in God's love. In your love, because you are God. Not a part of God - you are the whole of God. And i don't mean the ego - i mean what you are behind that.
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On 3/18/2022 at 1:27 PM, Forza21 said:
Can truth be painful?
The big struggle i have, is when I suffer, and I see "God-Realization" through the lens of ego, which claims itself to be God. So it's basically pure solipsism trap, and madness, because ego claims itself to be the only real thing, and everything else is imaginary. All the world, doesn't exist, but this ego-mind of Forza. It's Sick.
When there's suffering, there are also thoughts like " what if it's how reality really is, and it's all pure suffering and hell? Maybe when i think otherwise, I avoid the truth? Perhaps "I' (the ego) created all this? Maybe when "I" die, i'll see all the people were imagined by me, (my ego) ?
BUT if this was true, and there was no other way to create reality, me, as Forza-God (haha), would never, ever, would want to awake. Like never. Because it would be awaking to pure hell. I would design such reality, without even a single trace of possibility of awaking.
So if God leaves all the possibility to one's awaking, through spirituality, meditation, psychedelics, all the spiritual gurus, religions, and much more, it means it wants the best for itself. It serves some purpose.
Therefore, the TRUTH must be blissful, must be love, must be happiness.
As God, i would want all the best for myself, right?
So, the implication of all this is: IF YOU SUFFER, IT'S NOT THE TRUTH. You are missing something.
My bet is, what you miss, it "no self" realization. Ego claims God's throne. Because God is truly selfless, so there's no one to be lonely after realization. God is also love, so there's only that.
is it correct way of reasoning? Can truth be something other than blissful experience? is reality really perfect? and why? OR MAYBE, Could it be designed other than the way it is?Forza, there is some really good stuff here, but you have a lot of stuff wrong. Suffering is very powerful - it will bring you to awakening if its channeled as such - combined with mediation. But its not that you see God realization through the lens of the ego. You are not experiencing God realization or having a mystical experience or a direct experience of God. That is the only reason you are saying you are filtering it through the ego. The ego is completely absent during God realization. And once you realize God, you can have further awakenings like the one i just had tonight, because you have already realized that you are Awareness itself or Being itself. The problem is you are building solipsism and idealism into your ideas of awakening. It isn't ike that. You can't conceptualize these things ahead of time, so you are correct. Now, when you actually realize you are God you will realize that you are dreaming everything, but this is liberating and it will be the love of God washing all over you, like I had tonight. It just means you are One with the universe, you are the universe, and you are everything there is. This should follow with waves of bliss and love, so it is not a bad thing. So solipsism and imaginary, they are just words, - reality IS. But it is Consciousness, and you can become aware that it is - but this is because it can't be anything physiscal or objective, because its happening in your Mind. It doesn't happen "outside" of you or objectively. That is indeed something within Mind. Physicality is within Mind, Mind is not within Physicality. That's just something you can become directly aware of. And I mean through Being - but also Being is not something out there, its something within you - you are Being.
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@Jonas Long Stop looking at who is online 🙂
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i just had an awakening on the forum.
its because of you Jonas, And talking about God to Joseph.
Not just because of you guys, but it all came together 🙂
it washed over me. It is still washing over me.
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1 hour ago, Someone here said:
@Robed Mystic what's your definition of god ?
God can't be described. All the labels we want to put on God, God surpasses. So we could say Ifinite, because as soon as you imagine the power of God you have only touched the surface. Now, as i said on Actualized earlier today, there aren't levels of Consciousness - but when you have a mystical experience of God you may realize it will continue to be deeper and deeper ecstasy and waves of bliss. Deeper and deeper love. Deeper love for yourself as God, and the creator of all of reality. When that realization washes over you - God realization, there is only bliss and love. It makes everything OK again,. The only cost to this is that you are completely alone.
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4 hours ago, Jonas Long said:
get it together with the spelling, we've already been over how to spell "spirituality". i mean, "indoctrinced"? it lends this paragraph about as much weight as it deserves, so appropriate. spir-rut-ality, in-goddamn-deed.
noted.
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2 minutes ago, Orb said:
See what im saying? Notice how the immediate reaction is to try to instill self doubt in me by implying that you've done more of the work than me or whatever.
I'm not trying to instill self doubt - I am just saying it takes meditation. And if you have tried that try it again. Just sit there. As long as it takes.
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5 minutes ago, Mandy said:
@Robed Mystic It's a pointless activity to weave a story where you end up the hero, because none of the characters in a story are really you.
as soon as we get real you shy away. I'd rather talk to Jonas, at least he has balls.
How should we deal with criminals?
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Posted · Edited by Robed Mystic
I've been playing with AI all day and you can see my dialogue posted on Actualized.org, so I'm in an AI kind of mood.
My comments about the death penalty could indeed be me talking about myself in ignorance- but it could also be me trying to come up with positive, meaningful solutions to the problem of the over crowded prison system due to repeat offenders. This is a problem that not only crowds our system but also creates the false ideology that certain murderers can be properly rehabilitated. In truth, not all can be saved.