I want to understand boredom

[Someone here]

Why do we get bored?

Basically, just that. Why do we get bored? Do our brains simply decide to receive less stimulating information if it isn't new information? Also... Do animals (specifically pets) get bored? How can lying around for most of the day be stimulating?

[Phil]

Why does boredom feel better than pessimism?

[Someone here]

15 hours ago, Phil said:

Why does boredom feel better than pessimism?

Is that according to the emotional scale? 

[Phil]

6 hours ago, Someone here said:

Is that according to the emotional scale? 

Does boredom feel better than pessimism? 

 

On 9/25/2022 at 6:48 AM, Someone here said:

Why do we get bored?

We don’t. When you experience the emotion boredom it isn’t related to what anyone else is thinking. It can’t be, because that anyone else is thinking is a belief. It’s a projection of discord felt of the beliefs on both accounts. Long story short lol, the materialist paradigm is indeed rightfully felt as boredom. Don’t take my word for it, just listen to the pessimism. 

 

On 9/25/2022 at 6:48 AM, Someone here said:

Basically, just that. Why do we get bored? Do our brains simply decide to receive less stimulating information if it isn't new information? Also... Do animals (specifically pets) get bored? How can lying around for most of the day be stimulating?

Adding more beliefs doesn’t dispel beliefs. Emotion ‘tells you’ there’s something off with this “approach” (denial isn’t really an approach). 

Without beliefs there can be no fear, anxiety, etc, as of course, those are beliefs. 

[ivankiss]

Some say boredom is the threshold. 

[Phil]

@Someone here

Maybe a good question is… 

If you were experiencing pessimism, but believed you were experiencing boredom… would you rather recognize & dispel the belief, or continue as is? 

 

[Someone here]

4 hours ago, Phil said:

Does boredom feel better than pessimism

I'm not sure .they both feel terrible. Don't know how to categorise them .

3 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Some say boredom is the threshold. 

What does it mean ?

 

1 hour ago, Phil said:

@Someone here

Maybe a good question is… 

If you were experiencing pessimism, but believed you were experiencing boredom… would you rather recognize & dispel the belief, or continue as is? 

 

Yes I would trade pessimism for boredom but not sure if I would do that all the time .sometimes I'm so bored out of my goddam mind that I would do anything to feel a sense of excitement.

Never mind why  animals get bored. Instead, let's get personal and talk about me and you: When we are stuck with boring people and cannot zone out or leave, we get bored. They bore us. However, when we get bored all by ourselves, there is no one to bore us. WE are doing the boring. No way around it, we are boring..

How do I stop being boring lol 😅?

[Someone here]

I can't just sit around doing nothing.  It's fucking boring.  I have to distract myself with something. Food .movies .porn. smoking. Chatting online etc 

[ivankiss]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

What does it mean ?

It means you can rise upwards or spiral downwards from it. It's like a breaking point.

 

I think what you're looking for is interest. Find something you're interested in. Not a distraction, but something that you are genuinely interested in. Interest is amazing. It captivates you, awakens you and can lead you in all sorts of directions. Exciting directions.

[James123]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

I can't just sit around doing nothing.  It's fucking boring.  I have to distract myself with something. Food .movies .porn. smoking. Chatting online etc 

That's what you have to let go. Otherwise, you will suffer non stop. 

[Mandy]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes I would trade pessimism for boredom but not sure if I would do that all the time .sometimes I'm so bored out of my goddam mind that I would do anything to feel a sense of excitement.

 

No, that would be leaving boredom as an emotion and dipping down to frustration/irritation/impatience. 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

I'm not sure .they both feel terrible. Don't know how to categorise them .

There isn’t a ‘how to categorize emotion’. That’s attempting to conceptualize emotion. It’s fruitless. 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes I would trade pessimism for boredom but not sure if I would do that all the time .sometimes I'm so bored out of my goddam mind that I would do anything to feel a sense of excitement.

You would do it all the time, because all you actually want is to feel better. The thought about being bored out of your mind sometimes is accompanied by the emotion of pessimism. 

 

You don’t need to do anything to feel excitement. The body is already the excitement of infinite consciousness. The finite mind, in attempting to conceptualize emotion, which it can not do, results in suppressing emotion. The finite mind then seeks to remedy this with objects… objectifying intimacy / physical pleasure & relationships, using substances, chasing states, etc. Technically you’re bored into your mind via conceptualizing, not out of your mind. Out of your mind would be liberation via emotional expression.  

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Never mind why  animals get bored.

Yeah. Humans experience emotions. Not animals. Humans aren’t animals. Only in conceptualizing emotion would it seem so.

 

Expressing emotion is natural. Suppression is often the result of repression of trauma. Suppression can also be learned, as in conditioning, via idolization of conceptualization.  

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Instead, let's get personal and talk about me and you: When we are stuck with boring people and cannot zone out or leave, we get bored. They bore us. However, when we get bored all by ourselves, there is no one to bore us. WE are doing the boring. No way around it, we are boring..

How do I stop being boring lol 😅?

I have no experience of boring people, nor of getting bored, nor of boredom, nor of doing boring, nor as far as I know, of being boring. 

 

[Phil]

@Someone here

Is aversion (from feeling) noticed yet?

Are the dots connecting as to why? 

As in how this relates to the core belief…

… and experiencing vs not experiencing anxiety. 

[Phil]

20 hours ago, Someone here said:

I can't just sit around doing nothing.  It's fucking boring.  I have to distract myself with something. Food .movies .porn. smoking. Chatting online etc 

The doer paradigm is indeed boring, because you’re being.  There is no doer.  
 

Breathing from the stomach and relaxing isn’t a doing. 
 

If experience is boring… Well, you’re being it. Liberation of anxiety, which is  suffering, is to notice the “separate self” of thoughts. The doer. The weight of the world on your shoulders. 
 

The tension of doing. 

 

Thoughts of claiming doing feel discordant to being, as vanity of knowledge feels discordant to infinite intelligence. No one is actually responsible for anything. 

The doubt is already here.  Avoiding it is insanity.  Make a dreamboard. Allow the transmuting. Let the discordant conditions, suffering, be seen as what you want, what’s coming, what is right in front of you. 
 

20 hours ago, Someone here said:

I can't just sit around doing nothing.  It's fucking boring.  I have to distract myself with something. Food .movies .porn. smoking. Chatting online etc 

[Lotus]

*wants to understand boredom*
 

*avoids boredom*

 

[Someone here]

On 9/29/2022 at 8:21 PM, ivankiss said:

It means you can rise upwards or spiral downwards from it. It's like a breaking point.

 

I think what you're looking for is interest. Find something you're interested in. Not a distraction, but something that you are genuinely interested in. Interest is amazing. It captivates you, awakens you and can lead you in all sorts of directions. Exciting directions.

I don't have any hobbies.  Except maybe "passive " ones .like watching sports. Instead of doing sport .

[Someone here]

On 9/30/2022 at 3:07 PM, Phil said:

The doer paradigm is indeed boring, because you’re being.  There is no doer.  
 

Breathing from the stomach and relaxing isn’t a doing. 
 

If experience is boring… Well, you’re being it. Liberation of anxiety, which is  suffering, is to notice the “separate self” of thoughts. The doer. The weight of the world on your shoulders. 
 

The tension of doing. 

 

Thoughts of claiming doing feel discordant to being, as vanity of knowledge feels discordant to infinite intelligence. No one is actually responsible for anything. 

The doubt is already here.  Avoiding it is insanity.  Make a dreamboard. Allow the transmuting. Let the discordant conditions, suffering, be seen as what you want, what’s coming, what is right in front of you. 
 

I made a dream board (on my iPhone,not sure if that counts lol). And I wrote a whole bunch of things on it like getting a girlfriend and building muscles and having more real life friends instead of "online friends "etc .but i didn't actuakize any of them at all. Like I said to you before. I believe the hard part is the action-taking.  The written down is simple enough. Any fool can wish some cool stuff and write  them down.  But not any fool can make his dreams come true. 

I'm not really concerned about anxiety at the moment. I do feel a little bit better after increasing my medication dosage.  

 

My problem  is that life seems pointless, i dont have the motivation or discipline to do anything productive. 

this entire summer break from college I've done nothing every day except for sitting on my laptop playing video games and other forms of escapism like chat rooms . life seems boring and pointless

I want life to be more exciting and filled with more than just video games and porm and smoking and other crap . but I don't know what to do, I don't have any friends nearby, dont have much money, and when I do get an idea (like go to a bar) I don't do it because I'm scared.

any time I do try to do something, I feel like I don't have the energy and I just go lay in my bed reading reddit from my phone.

what can I do to overcome this boredom? what can I do to get myself motivated and going?

Edited October 1, 2022 by Someone here

[Phil]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

I made a dream board (on my iPhone,not sure if that counts lol).

Try a dry erase / dreamboard. Just to see the difference. 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

And I wrote a whole bunch of things on it like getting a girlfriend and building muscles and having more real life friends instead of "online friends "etc .but i didn't actuakize any of them at all.

Is you actualizing those things the same as allowing?  

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Like I said to you before. I believe the hard part is the action-taking. 

Why do you believe that? Trace it back, where’d you learn it or first start believing that? 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

The written down is simple enough. Any fool can wish some cool stuff and wrong them down. 

Try a dry erase / dreamboard. Just to see the difference. 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

But not any fool can make his dreams come true. 

How many fools are there? 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

I'm not really concerned about anxiety at the moment. I do feel a little bit better after increasing my medication dosage.  

My problem  is that life seems pointless,

What if you looked for where you have the problem and realized that it couldn’t be found? Would that mean you don’t have a problem?

If you let go of the problem, could you still feel anxiety, could life still seem boring & pointless?

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

i dont have the motivation or discipline to do anything productive. 

Right. Where would you even have it lol. 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

this entire summer break from college I've done nothing every day except for sitting on my laptop playing video games and other forms of escapism like chat rooms . life seems boring and pointless

Escapism, boring, and pointless are beliefs & perspectives about life, not life. They’re conceptualizations of life, which in & of itself is already a concept. ‘Life’ is really pure consciousness, inexplicable spontaneity. Effervescent ever-newness. Anything-could-happen-nextness. Unthinkable perfection.

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

I want life to be more exciting and filled with more than just video games and porm and smoking and other crap . 

but I don't know what to do, I don't have any friends nearby, dont have much money, and when I do get an idea (like go to a bar) I don't do it because I'm scared.

any time I do try to do something, I feel like I don't have the energy and I just go lay in my bed reading reddit from my phone.

Write whatever comes to mind that you do want on the dreamboard. 

Breathing deeply & relaxing deeply aren’t doing. Try non-doing. Enjoy feeling. 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

what can I do to overcome this boredom?

Emotion can’t be suppressed or overcome. Only listened to. Self is unobscured via expression. 

 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

what can I do to get myself motivated and going?

Ask me again when you find it. 

 

[Someone here]

8 minutes ago, Phil said:

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

 

Try a dry erase / dreamboard. Just to see the difference. 

OK. The reason I'm not doing a erase board is because if I put it in my house ..I'm afraid that my brother will make fun of me and silly little wishes lol.

10 minutes ago, Phil said:

Is you actualizing those things the same as allowing ?

, I don't know.  I guess there is a subtle difference. I'm supposed to write on the dreamboard from my  potential and try and fullfil that potential. That means accepting who I am already, warts and all, and having an urge to add a spark of creativity in each aspect of my life. The problem is I lack the foundation . I don't have the necessary pillars, (a healthy lifestyle)to  build whatever I  want on top of it .

13 minutes ago, Phil said:

What if you looked for where you have the problem and realized that it couldn’t be found? Would that mean you don’t have a problem?

If you let go of the problem, could you still feel anxiety, could life still seem boring & pointless

 Some time ago i was still curious of many things but it's long gone.  Now Im just doing stuff that needs to be done to develop myself and when im tired i play video games / do sports / read books. But everything is boring. Getting mastery at subjects at uni feels pointless. Even if i graduate and get decent knowledge and get a good job, whats the point? It wont change how i feel about the world around me. It will mostly change onyl how other perceive me, which i dont really care about. I feel like i need help and i dont know where to ask for it. My family doesnt even try understanding me. 

18 minutes ago, Phil said:

Escapism, boring, and pointless are beliefs & perspectives about life, not life. They’re conceptualizations of life, which in & of itself is already a concept. ‘Life’ is really pure consciousness, inexplicable spontaneity. Effervescent ever-newness. Anything-could-happen-nextness. Unthinkable perfection.

Nice poetic description. But it's not true in my experience..so.....

19 minutes ago, Phil said:

Write whatever comes to mind that you do want on the dreamboard. 

Breathing deeply & relaxing deeply aren’t doing. Try non-doing. Enjoy feeling

I'm doing that.  Still waiting for the tangible results. 

I agree with you .I have to allow myself to enjoy and appreciate the small things in life 

I'm being too harsh and perfectionist.  I think I also should lower my expectations because nothing super great seems to be waiting for me in the near future. 

 

[Mandy]

One day you might find yourself so damn inspired, enthused and motivated that you're passionate and fulfilled talking to people just like yourself who are thinking that their lives suck and are boring, etc. Right back where you started. Are there really two sides of a conversation? Why not try writing both sides in a  journal? Do you think you need us to know what you want to be doing? You don't.