BlendingInfinite Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 @Philwhy does Abraham hicks say one should expect things, isn’t this projecting into the future🤔 Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orb Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 @BlendingInfinite good question! Quote Mention "Mediocrity is gone. Mind is clear of limitation. I seek no state of enlightenment. Neither do I remain where no enlightenment exists. Since I linger in neither condition, eyes cannot see me. If hundreds of birds strew my path with flowers, such praise would be meaningless." - A Comment on the 8th Ox Herding Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 @BlendingInfinite Could you copy and paste the quote or video? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Positive expectation is very different from expecting things. For example if you are going to the doctor's office and you expect to be nervous, and you expect to have blood drawn and expect it to hurt and you expect the conversation to be uncomfortable and expect not to be listened to, you're going to feel awful. But if you consciously intend to have a good and productive visit, you are switching your thoughts from focusing on thoughts that feel bad, to considering what you want, other ways to look at things and imagining good possibilities. It's the knowing that we create with our thoughts, that we are creators. It's all about breaking it down to in the moment, dropping a thought that feels bad and/or picking one that feels better. Positive expectation is knowing that no matter what happens it's gonna be Good. It's much different from expecting your partner to provide all your fulfillment from here on out or expecting the new house or job to make you 100% fulfilled forever more. We are always expanding and this itself is satisfying, a new dream or desire is satisfying in itself. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) @Phil " ...And you know somebody is going to wait for you at the door... ...so you've played that over in your mind and it has been a pleasant thought... " Edited June 23, 2022 by BlendingInfinite Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 But there are many other examples where Abraham Hicks is talking about expecting something in the future. What Abraham seems to mean is actually expect a thought story to transpire in reality. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 @Mandy Agree with what you mean. However, I would rather call it grounded happiness, confidence or something like that. On the emotional scale there is "positive expectations, belief, optimism" Belief is where suffering arises, because it is always believing thoughts. Expectations is the same. Optimism is related to the future, too. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, BlendingInfinite said: @Mandy Agree with what you mean. However, I would rather call it grounded happiness, confidence or something like that. On the emotional scale there is "positive expectations, belief, optimism" Belief is where suffering arises, because it is always believing thoughts. Expectations is the same. Optimism is related to the future, too. It sticks out to me that while Abraham always says "expectation" you use the word "expectations". I mean, not to be annoying and nitpicky, but I think there's a massive, profound difference there, and you aren't hearing the word how it's intended. The future is not excluded from now. There is no past, now, future. So we cannot secure our happiness and spiritual enlightenment by avoiding the future, because we are wise enough to know there is only now, we simply never experience the future directly. However when we are feeling fricking AMAZING about the future, we are feeling that... now. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mandy said: It sticks out to me that while Abraham always says "expectation" you use the word "expectations". I mean, not to be annoying and nitpicky, but I think there's a massive, profound difference there, and you aren't hearing the word how it's intended. The future is not excluded from now. There is no past, now, future. So we cannot secure our happiness and spiritual enlightenment by avoiding the future, because we are wise enough to know there is only now, we simply never experience the future directly. However when we are feeling fricking AMAZING about the future, we are feeling that... now. The question remains, why Abraham Hicks advices to believe thoughts stories, which should arise in the future. It is about what Abraham Hicks says and actually means. My list has now changed Peter Ralston Phil Bryon Katie Abraham Hicks Phil made it one step up, wheres Abraham Hicks loses 2 ranking points 😄 However, the question is about what Abraham Hicks actually means, maybe there is more too it. AH obviously advices to belief in thought stories. You can watch this video and others to validate it. Even if there would be a difference between expectation and expectations, the emotional scale still contains believe and optimism. Edited June 23, 2022 by BlendingInfinite Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 ranking points. huh. 😬😂 Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 @BlendingInfinite Thanks. 3 hours ago, BlendingInfinite said: @Philwhy does Abraham hicks say one should expect things, isn’t this projecting into the future🤔 There isn’t a future per se, but Ourself, ‘The Now’, and we’re quite literally creating reality. Projecting in that sense is really, quite literally creating. Pre-paving, imagining things working out for you is excellent alignment “work” imo. I use quotes because it’s not really work at all, because it feels great. Reality is very literally love, pure magic and we are vibrational beings. (And not even two.) So it makes perfect sense that aspects like vibration, resonating, and alignment are key. Even if not for ‘the stuff’, or how things ‘will’ go, for no reason other than how you feel, it’s most logical and sensible. Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Phil said: @BlendingInfinite Thanks. There isn’t a future per se, but Ourself, ‘The Now’, and we’re quite literally creating reality. Projecting in that sense is really, quite literally creating. Pre-paving, imagining things working out for you is excellent alignment “work” imo. I use quotes because it’s not really work at all, because it feels great. Reality is very literally love, pure magic and we are vibrational beings. (And not even two.) So it makes perfect sense that aspects like vibration, resonating, and alignment are key. Even if not for ‘the stuff’, or how things ‘will’ go, for no reason other than how you feel, it’s most logical and sensible. I agree. So no expectation🤔hence, we can remove it from the emotional scale. So less work👍 What do you think Edited June 24, 2022 by BlendingInfinite Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) It is obviously an inconcistancy in Abraham hicks work. It teaches suffering. People are trained to believing thoughts and that this is good. It is not even if they are positive, because they are believed. Moreover over the future. Edited June 24, 2022 by BlendingInfinite Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, BlendingInfinite said: What do you think 2 hours ago, BlendingInfinite said: It is obviously an inconcistancy in Abraham hicks work. It teaches suffering. People are trained to believing thoughts and that this is good. It is not even if they are positive, because they are believed. Moreover over the future. What if how you feel is put ‘above’ what you believe? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 @BlendingInfinite When you posted this thread weren't you expecting an answer? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Phil said: What if how you feel is put ‘above’ what you believe? Then you could say hitler saved jews. Language does transfer insights, isn’t that true🤔Abraham hicks did not transfer the insights you want to point to. Beliebing sounds I interpret something into the said beyond what is communicated by Abraham hicks not you. It is about Abraham hicks. You saying now i believe is like dismissing that using assumptions. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mandy said: @BlendingInfinite When you posted this thread weren't you expecting an answer? I was interested. It is again about expectation. I didn't had one Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Phil, it is not about Abraham hicks but the message. To avoid misuunderstsandings. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 I don't think ee can dismiss everything what anybody says and just projecting our own thoughts into it. There is a certain consens on what people understand by language constructs and we have responsibility to it. Otherwise our civilisation wouldn't work. We wouldn't have internet, this forum etc. Moreover, the usage of words and meaning should not be misused. This ends in Chaos. You could say this is what I believe, but the price would be that your children couldnt go to school. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlendingInfinite Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 It looks like an activity to avoid Taking responsibility for n error which was made. Belief,expectation, believing thought stories, knowing the future obviously imply delusion or believing thoughts. Quote Mention You can derive it from simple logic Left means not right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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