Blessed2 Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 (edited) Actually listen. "What President Trump has to say": Edited August 29 by Blessed2 Quote Mention I am the playful and ever-present Source, joyfully embracing every thought and emotion as part of my perfect, unfolding co-creative dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_in_Finland The happiest country. 😏🇫🇮🇫🇮 Quote Mention I am the playful and ever-present Source, joyfully embracing every thought and emotion as part of my perfect, unfolding co-creative dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 hours ago, Kevin said: I have no problem with changing views per se. I think Kamala is fake and is hiding her views to get elected. Reality tv is fake. How is that connected? I’m not voting for trump because of the apprentice. Also what do you mean in the second part of this paragraph? While Trump does not try to act like a politician and that can be refreshing, the artificiality is just a different flavor. Art-artifice, how great thou art, narcissism, arrogance, pride. Creation. Creating. Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 hours ago, Mandy said: While Trump does not try to act like a politician and that can be refreshing, the artificiality is just a different flavor. Art-artifice, how great thou art, narcissism, arrogance, pride. Creation. Creating. Why do you think Trump is artificial? To me he seems uniquely genuine for a politician. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 @Kevin Do you believe that Mexico is going to pay for a wall? Quote Mention Youtube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 10 hours ago, Kevin said: Why do you think Trump is artificial? To me he seems uniquely genuine for a politician. Do you believe he is religious like he says he is? Do you believe he is the most fit and healthy person ever to be the US president? Do you believe the shit on top of his head is hair? Do you believe he actually cares about the working class? Do you believe he really thinks democrats want "open borders" when the last 2 democratic presidents deported more undocumented immigrants than he did? Do you believe he was an honest businessman? Do you believe he didn't cheat on his wife with numerous women including a porn star? Do you believe he is a "very stable genius"? I could go on believe me, many people are saying I could go on and on, nobody could go on and on like me bigly, tremendous, I know words I have the best words, and you know it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 "If you repeat anything enough times people will believe it" Donald Trump Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 @Kevindo you believe windmills give people cancer???? Man do I have a bridge to sell you sir. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, Mandy said: @Kevin Do you believe that Mexico is going to pay for a wall? Idk maybe Mexico will pay, maybe they won’t. It’s not really relevant. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jonas Long said: Do you believe he is religious like he says he is? Do you believe he is the most fit and healthy person ever to be the US president? Do you believe the shit on top of his head is hair? Do you believe he actually cares about the working class? Do you believe he really thinks democrats want "open borders" when the last 2 democratic presidents deported more undocumented immigrants than he did? Do you believe he was an honest businessman? Do you believe he didn't cheat on his wife with numerous women including a porn star? Do you believe he is a "very stable genius"? I could go on believe me, many people are saying I could go on and on, nobody could go on and on like me bigly, tremendous, I know words I have the best words, and you know it. I’m not gonna go through every point here. I’ll address a few though. Trump is very hyperbolic. For example in one speech he says. “I have the biggest crowds. Nobody has bigger crowds.” Or he’ll say “we had the best economy. Nobody’s seen anything like.” Is it really true that there’s never been bigger crowds? Or that nobody’s ever seen anything like the economy under Trump? Hell no lol. He’s exaggerating for effect. Something that I think is hilarious and many people who like Trump understand this. On many of your points, you’re making assertions and I could assert back in the opposite direction but that’s pointless. You’re just parroting what you’ve heard from the media and I would just be parroting stuff I’ve heard. Neither of us have met him. I say trump is authentic because he constantly does public appearances. He does rallies, speeches, and interviews constantly. Many of them are very long. In fact a criticism you could level is that he sometimes goes on for too long. He’s constantly in the public eye and constantly going off teleprompter. If you’re fake people will see it really quickly if you do all those public appearances. This is why Kamala has only done one short pre-taped interview even though she’s running to be president. And real quick on immigration. It does seem like Biden/Harris want open borders. This administration is either willfully incompetent and stupid, or they have intentionally opened the border. There has been a border catastrophe that was not going on during the Trump presidency. The Biden/Harris admin could stop it but they don’t. How else do you interpret that? Edited August 30 by Kevin Second to last paragraph added for clarity Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blessed2 Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 Can someone give an example of the media actually lying or distorting information about Trump? An actual link to an article or a video or something. Quote Mention I am the playful and ever-present Source, joyfully embracing every thought and emotion as part of my perfect, unfolding co-creative dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Kevin said: I’m not gonna go through every point here. I’ll address a few though. Trump is very hyperbolic. For example in one speech he says. “I have the biggest crowds. Nobody has bigger crowds.” Or he’ll say “we had the best economy. Nobody’s seen anything like.” Is it really true that there’s never been bigger crowds? Or that nobody’s ever seen anything like the economy under Trump? Hell no lol. He’s exaggerating for effect. Something that I think is hilarious and many people who like Trump understand this. On many of your points, you’re making assertions and I could assert back in the opposite direction but that’s pointless. You’re just parroting what you’ve heard from the media and I would just be parroting stuff I’ve heard. Neither of us have met him. I say trump is authentic because he constantly does public appearances. He does rallies, speeches, and interviews constantly. Many of them are very long. In fact a criticism you could level is that he sometimes goes on for too long. He’s constantly in the public eye and constantly going off teleprompter. If you’re fake people will see it really quickly if you do all those public appearances. This is why Kamala has only done one short pre-taped interview even though she’s running to be president. And real quick on immigration. It does seem like Biden/Harris want open borders. This administration is either willfully incompetent and stupid, or they have intentionally opened the border. There has been a border catastrophe that was not going on during the Trump presidency. The Biden/Harris admin could stop it but they don’t. How else do you interpret that? Omg, it is a fact that both Obama and Biden deported more undocumented immigrants than trump, its just a fact. It's also a fact that trump made Republicans in congress veto the border bill that included the wall and everything Republicans say they want in it because it would happen under Biden and help Biden. The lies about open borders are maybe the most bold and completely unfounded. What are you basing this on besides trumps word that they want open borders? Edited August 30 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 @Kevin And a lot of people on the left aren't even very happy about this but it happens to be true. Trump is the one currently blocking the bipartisan border bill. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 21 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: Can someone give an example of the media actually lying or distorting information about Trump? An actual link to an article or a video or something. Trump proposed no tax on tips. News anchors criticized him. Harris says no tax on tips. News anchors praise it. The media constantly distorts. You have to understand that with a coordinated media push to demonize someone, you can be led to hate or distrust anyone. And it is most definitely coordinated. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Blessed2 said: Can someone give an example of the media actually lying or distorting information about Trump? An actual link to an article or a video or something. When you lie as boldly and frequently and outrageously as trump does, it's actually hard to counter them without sounding like you are being totally against him. How do you counter this level of insane lies and propaganda without sounding like you are doing it too? I never watch mainstream news and the independent media I watch are critical of democrats too as I am. I don't care about a person, I care about policy. When you have people as bought in as @Kevin is illustrating about the outright lies, what can you even do? What will they even believe? Edited August 30 by Jonas Long Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: @Kevin And a lot of people on the left aren't even very happy about this but it happens to be true. Trump is the one currently blocking the bipartisan border bill. Brother you don’t need new legislation to close the border. Trump closed the border without legislation. Biden putting forward legislation is just his way of either kicking the can down the road or pretending he’s doing something to close it when he really isn’t. Biden got rid of the remain in Mexico policy which is where if you come to America to claim asylum you would have to stay in Mexico until your court date. Now all you have to do is show up at the border and say you fear to return to your country and they give you a court date and let you in. Most don’t show up to their court date. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 10 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: Omg, it is a fact that both Obama and Biden deported more undocumented immigrants than trump, it’s he just a fact. It's also a fact that trump made Republicans in congress veto the border bill that included the wall and everything Republicans say they want in it because it would happen under Biden and help Biden. The lies about open borders are maybe the most bold and completely unfounded. What are you basing this on besides trumps word that they want open borders? The border is a disaster. Illegals from all over the world flooding in. It’s not just people from South America. Fentanyl. People killed by illegals. If you don’t think there is a border crisis you’re not paying attention. Do some research on it. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, Jonas Long said: When you lie as boldly and frequently and outrageously as trump does, it's actually hard to counter them without sounding like you are being totally against him. How do you counter this level of insane lies and propaganda without sounding like you are doing it too? I never watch mainstream news and the independent media I watch are critical of democrats too as I am. I don't care about a person, I care about policy. When you have people as bought in as @Kevin is illustrating about the outright lies, what can you even do? What will they even believe? Total projection. You’re clearly bought into the media lies about Trump. It comes through in all your posts about him. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 3 minutes ago, Kevin said: The border is a disaster. Illegals from all over the world flooding in. It’s not just people from South America. Fentanyl. People killed by illegals. If you don’t think there is a border crisis you’re not paying attention. Do some research on it. This is propaganda you are repeating, pure and simple. Immigrants both documented and undocumented commit less crimes than natural born citizen do. But you're right, I can't talk to you, because you are in a cult. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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