Joseph Maynor Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 hours ago, Phil said: The movie analogy is about… a movie. Correct. It’s not a movie. It’s unreal. The movie analogy is just a pointer. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Maynor Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 5 hours ago, Mandy said: The duality would be that there's someone that's just a witness, and that there's another God or author of the narrative or script out there, unseen. The you that creates your reality. Exactly because there is no narrative it is creative license, liberation, freedom, pure potential. Sit back and enjoy, lean in and create. I agree. The duality is just a pointer. It’s a mimd that’s interpreting language so that’s already a factor in anything said. Quote Mention 💬 🗯️🤍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Long Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just now, Joseph Maynor said: I agree. The duality is just a pointer. It’s a mimd that’s interpreting language so that’s already a factor in anything said. A "mimd" which interprets is a duality too. Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 12 minutes ago, Joseph Maynor said: Correct. It’s not a movie. It’s unreal. The movie analogy is just a pointer. 😂 Is there space and time, cause and effect, pleasures and pains, deluded people, wise people, minds, bodies, forms of mind, forms of body… “in” a movie? Quote Mention YouTube Website Sessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/23/2024 at 2:23 AM, Joseph Maynor said: You're getting at the key question in spirituality which is what is the mine and what is not mine. And then what is the nature of that which is mine and what is the nature of that which is not mine. Secondly I would say it's odd that no one knows a definitive answer to these questions, or do you/they? How do we know for sure? One of the reasons I like Advaita Vedanta is because it tackles these questions in a very provocative way that I've never seen done before; namely, any attributes applied to the Self are false because the Self has no attributes. Attributes are anything that one can put a name to, i.e., the body is an attribute. Anything that is attributed to the Self is an attribute. So that weeds out more than most people would like. E.g., the Self doesn't attach to anything including happiness, knowledge, action, what has been attained, what has yet to be attained. And the Self is formless too, you can figure that one out. The Self is beyond thought. Other attributes are like pleasure and pain. This one is going to scare a lot of you on here -- the Self is beyond feeling. The Self is not a feeler because feeling is an attribute. It puts the Self in a subject-object relation with feeling. That's why these crocodile images are so powerful: (when I saw these images, I was like these are deep -- the Self is beyond ego and can't be hurt) Egos make sure they win, there's just different games they do this in (different games they play in). Egos are crocodiles for sure. Crocodiles are egos. This is too much knowledge lol. Ego=Everything. Self=Nothing. That's all. Quote Mention "It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 5/22/2024 at 2:17 PM, Someone here said: I mean look at it really ..wide your gaze and look around you ..this stuff that you perceive is obviously being experienced by you ..its happening within awareness..within your awareness. Close your eyes ..everything disappeared. Open them again ..they reapear .etc Go to sleep..the whole universe goes poof and collapse as if it never even existed for at least 8 hours (but from your POV it was a blink of an eye .) I mean how the hell am I wrong here ? You guys dream every single night ..you experience a fantastic array of various colorful dreams similar if not identical to the waking state ...yet once you wake up everything in the dream is revealed to be a creation of your own mind/awareness/subconscious mind etc or however the fuck you wanna think about it . This is precisely correct. But imagine if you can wake up from this dream? That would indeed be glorious. The Truth shall set you free! Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) On 5/22/2024 at 4:19 PM, Enlightened Cat said: Nothing exists outside of my awareness It's both. "Your"awareness exists while under the illusion. Illusion exists. It is also nothing. Reality is very circular, if you havent noticed. It's a strange loop. Edited May 25 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robed Mystic Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 (edited) On 5/22/2024 at 6:23 PM, Joseph Maynor said: How do we know for sure? We don't. You can. Edited May 25 by Robed Mystic Quote Mention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enlightened Cat Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 4 hours ago, Robed Mystic said: Illusion exists. It is also nothing. Mirages exist. But thoughts say there is water, and that's the illusion. Thoughts exist. But thoughts say there is illusion, and that's the illusion. Thoughts say, but what is said is never seen. No one ever sees water in a mirage. No one ever sees illusion in thought. Thoughts aren't describing anything, that's the illusion! Quote Mention Describe a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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